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Old 03-13-2011, 05:47 PM   #1
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Recently I signed up to an automotive site called TrueDelta. This site is run by Michael Karesh who is contributor to the auto blog site "The Truth About Cars" and is also a significant contributor to this site ("mkaresh" ~800 posts). Currently there is TrueDelta data for for the S-Series, ION, Vue, Aura, Outlook. But apparently there are insufficient numbers of L-Series signed up to collect data.

I am asking all who frequent this site to go to www.truedelta.com and register their car. I suspect that part of the problem may be the frequent re-naming of the cars and the inconsistent naming for the same car over the six years of production. For this reason, register as "L-Series".

If we do this and get sufficient numbers, we can get an idea of how our cars compare to others for reliability.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:23 PM   #2
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The only thing I need to do to compare the reliability of my LS1 is to look down at the odometer, which shows nearly 217,000 largely problem-free miles on the clock.

Of course, any survey done on the L series pertaining to reliability is going to be majorly skewed as a result of the timing chain issue, which so many have experienced.

One across-the-board known "defect" like that (OK, GM only owned up to the fact that it was a "defect" in the 2001 models, although the same part was used in the 200-2002 models) will totally foul up any such-said survey.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:28 AM   #3
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Just signed up. Still not enough yet to plug into an L-Series survey. It says, "New cars are added to the survey around the beginning of each month." So will check back.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:54 PM   #4
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Michael PM'd me that the 2001 and 2002 are fairly close to a quorum.
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Old 06-16-2011, 01:07 PM   #5
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The 2002 has been added to the survey. The 2001 is still a few cars short, and the 2000 is about 2/3 of the way.

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Old 09-08-2011, 12:53 PM   #6
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Updated results have been posted for all other Saturn models except the Relay. Hopefully we'll be able to include the L-Series in the next update. A few more participants for each year would be very helpful.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:05 PM   #7
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Woot, my 2002 made a difference!
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:40 PM   #8
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My 2000 L 3.0L is registered.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:34 PM   #9
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My 2004 L300.2 is now registered
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:03 PM   #10
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Thanks, guys. Due to your participation we'll have some stats for the 2001 and 2002 with next month's update.

Sample sizes will be small, so additional particpants would be very helpful.

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Old 12-16-2012, 03:00 PM   #11
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We have updated our reliability stats for the Saturn L-Series based on owner experiences through September 30, 2012.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2002: 99, worse than average

2001: 92, about average

Very small sample sizes, so these reliability stats are not precise.

We'll have further updates in February and May. We'd love to provide more precise stats and cover more model years--just a matter of getting more owners involved.

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Old 12-16-2012, 06:56 PM   #12
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I just added my car to the survey. It will help if more 2000 L-series owners will get signed up.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:35 PM   #13
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We have updated our reliability stats for the Saturn L-Series based on owner experiences through December 31, 2012.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2002: 86, moderate

2001: 87, low

Very small sample sizes, so these reliability stats are not precise.

Thank you, once again, everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

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Old 10-14-2013, 12:47 PM   #14
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We've updated our reliability stats for the L-Series to include owner experiences through June 30, 2013. (Another source is about 14 months behind.)

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2002 L-Series: 81, moderate, very small sample size
2001 L-Series: 75, low, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in November and February.

To view competitors' scores and descriptions of reported repairs, and to sign up to help:

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Old 12-13-2013, 10:33 AM   #15
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Awesome car.

Using Mobil 1 synthetic oil and following the maintenance scheduled religiously, my 2000 Saturn L has surpassed the 237,000 mile mark.

Very little $$$ spent in terms of maintaining it. The Saturn L's a sweet ride.

I'd buy another one someday, but it's too bad Saturn is D.O.A. R.I.P., best American car brand ever made.

Polymer panels in the snow belt of Wisconsin rock. Nah, nah, salt and rust!

Plus, with the Ecotech engine, I can get upwards of 44 M.P.G. on a very rural stretch of road.

Best car I'll ever own!
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Awesome car.

Very little $$$ spent in terms of maintaining it. The Saturn L's a sweet ride.

Plus, with the Ecotech engine, I can get upwards of 44 M.P.G. on a very rural stretch of road.

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I agree with you. This car has been very easy on the wallet with regard to repair issues. I wonder, however, about the "44 M.P.G" item. Are you certain of that number?

The best mileage I ever got out of my LS1 was 36 M.P.G. one day when I drove by myself from South Orange County to West L A and back again. Save for about 5 or 6 miles on streets, it was all at open highway speeds and relatively flat land - no significant inclines. Apart from that one occasion, highway mileage tends to hover between 30 and 32 M.P.G. for me.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:42 PM   #17
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Doesn't seem to apply to 97 sl-2, 2000 or newer?
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:38 AM   #18
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I agree with you. This car has been very easy on the wallet with regard to repair issues. I wonder, however, about the "44 M.P.G" item. Are you certain of that number?

The best mileage I ever got out of my LS1 was 36 M.P.G. one day when I drove by myself from South Orange County to West L A and back again. Save for about 5 or 6 miles on streets, it was all at open highway speeds and relatively flat land - no significant inclines. Apart from that one occasion, highway mileage tends to hover between 30 and 32 M.P.G. for me.
I run strictly Mobil 1 synthetic oil. Have done so since all the engine's parts were properly seated at 12,00 miles.

Synthetic oil not only extend the life of your engine significantly because it's much more slippery than crude oil, it also improves your gas mileage significantly because there's less friction on the engine's part.

We run my wife's minivan strictly on synthetic oil, too. But being a V6, it still guzzles the gas.

The 2.2 Ecotech engine rules. I'll be getting the Chevy Cruze, which has the same engine as my Satty, next and give my trusty steed, the Saturn, to my son in about three years.
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I agree with you. This car has been very easy on the wallet with regard to repair issues. I wonder, however, about the "44 M.P.G" item. Are you certain of that number?

The best mileage I ever got out of my LS1 was 36 M.P.G. one day when I drove by myself from South Orange County to West L A and back again. Save for about 5 or 6 miles on streets, it was all at open highway speeds and relatively flat land - no significant inclines. Apart from that one occasion, highway mileage tends to hover between 30 and 32 M.P.G. for me.
Sorry, my bad. The post should have read 34 m.p.g Maybe my fingers had a case of wishful thinking.

Still, given the size of this ginormous car, that's pretty darn good.
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We've updated our reliability stats for the L-Series to include owner experiences through September 30, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2001 L-Series: 56, low, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in February and in May. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

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