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Old 11-13-2008, 12:48 PM   #1
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Default Saturn Astra and Oil Changes

So I'm sure I read in the owners manual that it tells you when it needs an oil change. So when I first got the car I put 2500kms on it and got an oil change because I was on my way to Ontario, and put 5200kms on that trip and figured for sure by the time I got home it would be telling me to change it. Well I've since drove another 7000kms and nothing telling me to change it. I've checked it on a regular basis, and theres lots of oil there, just off the full indicator. I'm just curious if anyone else is in the same boat I'm in, or maybe I have a bigger problem with a sensor not working.

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Old 11-13-2008, 01:19 PM   #2
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Mine goes about 10,000 miles between the light coming on.

You know how when you first open the door, the odometer comes on? While its on, hold down the trip reset button, and it'll tell you how many miles/kms till your next oil change, rounded to the nearest thousand.

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Old 11-13-2008, 04:15 PM   #3
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It's not really a sensor. It's an algorithm in the computer. The only thing that could go "wrong" with it would be that the computer failed (which would have many other symptoms) or the odometer display (where the "INSP" message appears) go out.

Just make SURE that when the oil is changed the monitor is reset properly. When it says you are due, it will show on the odo on startup for a few seconds (watch for this message to go away after a change if it's reset). If you get a change before it's due, use the method in the previous post before and after the change to make sure the miles/kms remaining goes up.

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Old 11-13-2008, 05:01 PM   #4
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I've used about a litre of oil in my XE's first 5200 km's. Is that normal?

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Old 11-13-2008, 06:45 PM   #5
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Mine goes about 10,000 miles between the light coming on.

You know how when you first open the door, the odometer comes on? While its on, hold down the trip reset button, and it'll tell you how many miles/kms till your next oil change, rounded to the nearest thousand.

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Ohh ohh I think I have a problem... I just went into Saturn yesterday for them to change to synthetic at 3200 and when I did the odometer thing today it says 17000 hmmm is there something wrong? I didnt even know if the guy knew how to reset the computer since he told me it was his first time changing oil on an astra thats why I went to check today

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Old 11-13-2008, 07:42 PM   #6
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I've used about a litre of oil in my XE's first 5200 km's. Is that normal?

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Mine used some oil in the first 5000 miles or so, too. I think I had to put either one or two quarts in before the first oil change.

Since then, it hasan't burned any oil.

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Old 11-13-2008, 07:48 PM   #7
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Ohh ohh I think I have a problem... I just went into Saturn yesterday for them to change to synthetic at 3200 and when I did the odometer thing today it says 17000 hmmm is there something wrong? I didnt even know if the guy knew how to reset the computer since he told me it was his first time changing oil on an astra thats why I went to check today

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When I got my first oil change, they didn't reset it, so I had to figure it out pretty much on my own (that's how I discovered the British Astra fourms ). Also, when I got a flat tire, it took them 20 minutes to plug the tire, and another 90 to reset the TPMS

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Old 11-13-2008, 09:14 PM   #8
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I've used about a litre of oil in my XE's first 5200 km's. Is that normal?

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This is usually due to breaking in the engine too gently (not enough blowby past the compression rings to properly seat the oil rings). It's within "allowable" or "normal" limits, but it's certainly not optimum. Your oil rings will likely continue to seat a little more as the engine wears in, but it wouldn't be surprising if the engine always consumed some oil.

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Old 11-14-2008, 06:23 AM   #9
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I just went into Saturn yesterday for them to change to synthetic at 3200 and when I did the odometer thing today it says 17000 hmmm is there something wrong?
I would say there is no problem at all. I put in synthetic and mine also said 17000km till next oil change. As far as I understand it, it's "knows" your driving style and resets the counter to the appropriate KM to count down from. From then on it's based on engine revs, idling times, temp, etc that determines the rate it counts down.

Personally I'd say my driving conditions, "engine and oil wise" are very good; almost no short trips so the engine fully warms up, 80% highway, even in the suburbs there are long stretches where I can maintain 60km, the car almost lives in 5th gear.

But I haven't gone through the middle of winter yet so I suspect at my next oil change the INSP will indicate differently.

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Old 11-14-2008, 08:10 AM   #10
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nothinf really wrong with a quart of oil used at 5200 km (3000 mi). as for me, i changed to synthetic at the firsrt oil change at 2000 km. the oil and filter will be changed at 6 months (about 6-7000 km). none of this 10000 km or once a year. changing the oil is cheap insurance and it does not last forever!

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Old 11-15-2008, 11:28 PM   #11
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This is usually due to breaking in the engine too gently (not enough blowby past the compression rings to properly seat the oil rings). It's within "allowable" or "normal" limits, but it's certainly not optimum. Your oil rings will likely continue to seat a little more as the engine wears in, but it wouldn't be surprising if the engine always consumed some oil.
How much longer do the rings continue to seat in terms of miles/time? The manual is not too specific in terms of break in. The serv. dept was even more vague. My prev. cars included more detailed guidelines in terms of mph/rpms ..etc. from a break in perspective.

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Old 11-16-2008, 12:07 AM   #12
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I havent had to add any oil yet and I am at 6500 kms. I keep checking the levels and oil quality and all is fine. It has gone down a touch, but the oil to begin with from factory was higher than it should be, I guess for breaking in period. Im still well to the max level. Will be getting the oil changed in a weeks time even tho I still have 8000 kms at the moment until it indicates a change.

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Old 11-17-2008, 09:00 AM   #13
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if the rings are not seated by 2000 miles, u may ahave a problem.

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Old 11-17-2008, 11:12 AM   #14
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Mine has never used or lost a drop of oil since new. Gas mileage hasn't changed, either (been 30-35mpg). I did my first oil change at ~10K, and I'm due for another soon (have 19K on the car now).

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L200PILOT....the reason it took so long to reset tpms is that you dont have to. after driving the car it will reset itself on the astra...

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Old 12-01-2008, 05:06 PM   #16
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I just got an oil change this morning, the ODO read 15,232 KM and after it was done when I pressed the stem down it said the next oil change was due in 17,000 KMS.. is this normal or whats going on? Isn't that way too much KMs till the next change?
Yes, it's normal. In ideal driving situations, you can go that long on an oil change (contrary to popular belief). When it's reset, it goes to the max interval and then works its way down. The harder or less ideal you drive the car, the faster the remailing mileage goes down.

My driving must be ideal since I get about 10,000 miles between changes. When it's reset it goes to 11,000 miles.

Yours will start at 17,000km, but it may, for example, get to zero after only 10,000km if you drive harder or make a lot of short trips.

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Old 12-02-2008, 10:32 AM   #17
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Lots of good info in this thread and it's nice to see at least a few people that understand a hard break in is VERY important to properly seat rings.

I liked the bit about hitting the odometer button after opening the door. Didn't know that one.

About 80% of engine break in occurs in the first 30 miles or so. It is EXTREMELY important that you drive the car until it is completely warm and then you run it up to redline several times and then let the motor coast down using the motor to slow the car in those first few miles. This will set the rings well. Then you should wait at least 5K miles to go to synthetic oil although waiting up until 10K is not a bad idea as that other 20% or break-in is still occuring.

If you did not break in your engine correctly your rings will likely never seat completely and the engine will ALWAYS burn some oil, and will always be down slightly on compression which hurts mpg and hp. It will also contaminate the oil early because of engine blow by.

The good news is the factory helped you tremendously as they already took your brand new motor up to redline under load several times when your engine was on a stand at the factory. If it wasn't for this there would be way more new vehicles burning oil.

For more info on how to properly break in any motor check out:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

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