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Old 10-14-2005, 11:03 AM   #1
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What pads you using for front and back? How were your experiences with ceramic, semi-metallic, and carbon respectively?

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Old 10-14-2005, 03:49 PM   #2
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Default Re: For those with rear-disc conversion

I last used EBC GreenStuff pads on the front and Saturn NS187 pads on the rear of my 96 SC2 that had the rear disco. That seemed to work. One time I had KFP/SPS Magnum Gold front and KFP Blue rear but that made the rears all too happy to lock before the fronts when the car was "empty" with no spare tire or jack added weight over the rear tires. I went back to Saturn NS187 rear pads after that adventure, but used KFP Gold pads on the front. I've never messed with ceramic pads.

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Old 10-14-2005, 11:25 PM   #3
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I dun like ceramics, but thanks for the info.

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Old 10-15-2005, 09:19 AM   #4
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I have whatever pads came with the rear brakes when I did the conversion. The pads are reddish and seem to do a good enough job. I installed EBC Green Stuff pads in the front recently and those mades a big difference. They bite down hard and it's difficult to get them to fade (not that I try). The front will lock up a little before the rears. I'm using stock rotors on all wheels.

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Old 10-15-2005, 10:28 AM   #5
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I guess people with stock rear-disc shouldn't say anything...

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Old 10-15-2005, 05:45 PM   #6
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I guess people with stock rear-disc shouldn't say anything...
I was more or less referring to those who don't have ABS, but you can put in your imput. Anything helps. Btw, I went searching for the costs of doing a rear disc conversion...

65 bucks per rear caliper. I'd buy a junkyard caliper to cover core cost, so it'd be whatever the junkyards cost. I'd also buy brand new rotors, pads, and I'd use the parking brake cables that came with the car.

Cost: 130 for calipers + core cost (whatever they charge me @ express), about 40 bucks for the rotors, whatever the brackets will cost, 20 bucks for pads...

Probably a tad over 200

But it'll be SOOOOOOOO worth it!

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Old 10-15-2005, 08:56 PM   #7
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention I never had ABS on my 92 SC or 96 SC2 with rear disk conversions. having ABS would probably help prevent rear locking...

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Old 10-15-2005, 09:03 PM   #8
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Hawk HPS. Excellent pads!

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Old 10-17-2005, 08:29 AM   #9
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***this info is only if you are actually trying to increase performance, not make your car look cool***


1) if you're racing and are poor, use stillen metal matrix pads with cheap autozone rotors. (careful in the wet, they don't work so good then)

2) don't mess with cross drilled or slotted rotors. they suck. it's like taking a race tire and carving a tread into it.

3) change your pads and rotors at the same time. don't mess with old rotors, chuck them as far as you can.


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Old 10-18-2005, 09:56 PM   #10
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I run stillen metal matrix on the front, and autozone ceramics on the back. (for track use, I swap the fronts to Hawk Blues)

I had ceramics on the fronts for 6 months - my wife & dad like theirs, but it didn't seem to have as good an initial bite as the MM pads.

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Old 10-19-2005, 01:07 PM   #11
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Axxis is a great brand too. I have used their Ultimate Kevlar/Ceramic and Metal Masters pads and they worked great!

To build upon what S3aturnR stated, with today's pad and rotor technology, the improvement gained by adding slotted and/or drilled rotors is less noticable than it was 10 years ago. However, on most vehicles it is still an improvement, especially in wet or extreme heat conditions, over OEM rotors. And on a racetrack, I will take slotted rotors over drilled any day!

Stainless brake lines make a huge difference. As you push your car harder with improved pads/rotors/etc., you begin to push the limits of the factory lines and expansion becomes an issue. I have the SSBC Big Brake kit on my RL and it works great. However, we still needed to add stainless lines...

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:15 AM   #12
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Thanks again. I really didn't like the ceramic pads, as they lost their bite real quick in their life. I'd much rather go with semi-metallics or kevlars/carbons. As for stainless brake lines... how ya go about that?

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Old 10-20-2005, 02:02 PM   #13
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As for stainless brake lines... how ya go about that?
SPS, Summit, etc. will all carry them. remove old lines, install new ones, bleed, enjoy.

That's the simple version be careful - the driver's front on the S-series is not a standard sized fitting. and if you've got high miles, the fittings won't want to come loose. (don't ask how I know...) GENTLY applied blue tipped wrench helps with that, since you're going to bleed anyway.

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I replaced my rubber brake lines after one ruptured on me. I got my stainless lines from Tire Rack. Installation was...... a nightmare. The left front went smooth. The right front began my troubles- the fitting at the hardline was corroded to the hardline and therefore I twisted off the hardline when I put a wrench on the fitting. I tried to rebend the hardline to get rid of some of the bends to give me more slack since I broke off an inch or 2 and ended up breaking even more off. And then the rears were stuck. I ended up taking the day off of work and driving my car to the dealer (with ZERO brakes) and letting them do it.

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The right front began my troubles- the fitting at the hardline was corroded to the hardline and therefore I twisted off the hardline when I put a wrench on the fitting. I tried to rebend the hardline to get rid of some of the bends to give me more slack since I broke off an inch or 2 and ended up breaking even more off.
Yeah, I have a nice repair fitting on my RF brake line...

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