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Old 09-16-2006, 07:49 PM   #1
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Default That's a SATURN, not an Audi.

As I'm sure most Aura drivers have noticed, this car is garnering ALOT of attention. You'll get looks at stoplights, looks in parking lots, I've even had people come out of stores as I was driving by to figure what my car is. I do love all the attention and it gives me a huge sense of pride when I say, "Ya, its a Saturn." I believe it is the same sense of pride people get when they say, "Ya, its got a hemi." This car apparently resembles Audi's when it comes down to the look of the car.

I have had 16 people (continuing to count) ask me one of the following things;

1. Is it a new A4?
2. Is it a new Passat?
3. Is it a new A6
4. What kind of Audi is that?

All I have to say is Saturn and GM have a potential Hit on their hands if they continue to develop the car. How many times have you heard a GM product be mistaken for the likes of Audi? And to make it all better, when is the last time you've heard someone say the words "sexy" and "Saturn" in the same sentence? One guy actually said, "Thats a beautiful car and I can afford because its a Saturn." That to me is a compliment. It means the car projects the "Aura" of being much more expensive than it really is, and utimately you can actually afford it. That same guy also bucked his eyes when I told him the car was only 22 grand, he thought the car was 30K plus.

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Old 09-16-2006, 11:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: That's a SATURN, not an Audi.

Anyone who would confuse an Aura with an Audi needs their eyes examined. How can anybody look at the front aspect of an Aura and that huge,bucktooth grille on the Audi and think they are related?

To me,the front of the new Audi looks like the automotive version of a beaver.

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Old 09-17-2006, 02:15 AM   #3
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I got sticker shock when I was at my Saturn dealer last weekend. I was oogling all over the new Aura XR and when I finally made it around to the front passenger side window where the "sticker" was sitting on the dash, I was astonished that it was so small (the price, that is). Even with the stupid add-on crap that the dealer tries to toss in there, it's still a beautiful, strong, refined-looking machine for a great price. I am simply amazed. I no longer have to tell my friends that the weakest part about Saturns is their interior!

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Old 09-17-2006, 05:35 AM   #4
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Anyone who would confuse an Aura with an Audi needs their eyes examined. How can anybody look at the front aspect of an Aura and that huge,bucktooth grille on the Audi and think they are related?

To me,the front of the new Audi looks like the automotive version of a beaver.
Its the side of the car that causes the confusion to most at first. They look at the side which doesn't have any markings with the exception on the "GM" badge on the front door, which most people don't notice. Once they see the front or rear they then realize what it truely is, which shocks them even more.

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Old 09-19-2006, 01:19 PM   #5
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Tack on "I swore that's a Lexus"

Quoted by the mechanic that works on my old SL2 when I don't work on it.

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Old 09-19-2006, 03:57 PM   #6
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To me,the front of the new Audi looks like the automotive version of a beaver.
Very true. Extending the grille all the way down to the pavement just doesn't look good.

Ever notice the rear of the new Audi A6? Looks almost identical to the second-gen L-series.

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Old 09-19-2006, 04:15 PM   #7
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Default Re: That's a SATURN, not an Audi.

Speaking of this, I took my neighbor to McDonald's and Saturn is right there beside McDonald's and she thought the AURA was a Cadillac, LOL. So I definitely see them going "upscale" with the AURA. Although I think my SL2 is a Sexy Saturn.....but I thought Saturns looked better than the competition like forever.

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Old 09-19-2006, 04:17 PM   #8
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I had one guy ask us when we started selling Acuras. He saw the picture of the Aura that we had put in the paper, and automatically assumed it was a misprint and we just forgot the C.

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Old 09-21-2006, 12:11 AM   #9
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Default Re: That's a SATURN, not an Audi.

The first Aura I saw was parked behind a Pontiac dealership, of all places (long story omitted). I was walking across the back of the dealership when I literally stopped dead in my tracks and said, "WHAT is THAT?". I couldn't believe it was a Saturn.

I can't buy a new car for another year (got to finish grad school & pay down some debt first) but the Aura is very high on my list now.

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Old 09-21-2006, 10:27 AM   #10
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Default Re: That's a SATURN, not an Audi.

That is funny, sexy was the first word that came to my mind too. I was checking it out in Saturn while getting my VUE services last week. I didn't notice though, and can't tell on the website, does it have the plastic panels or is it steel?

I love the panoramic sunroof! Didn't notice that at the dealer, but also loved that it had *smooth* leather seats. My leather seats have those dumb holes in it, which I am sure serve some purpose other than to catch the leather cleaner when I try to clean them.

I have a bit of a small car phobia since a big Ford Expedition/Excursion, the big one, totaled my 92 SL2 going 55mph on the highway. So, my VUE is perfect for me, was planning to upgrade to the hybrid in 3-4 years. But, I think I could really feel safe in this Aura. Does it drive as well as it looks?

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:06 AM   #11
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I didn't notice though, and can't tell on the website, does it have the plastic panels or is it steel?

Does it drive as well as it looks?
The Aura is a steel body. Some people feel its not a true Saturn unless it has plastic panels, it makes no difference to me. I Actually like the steel better when it comes to waxing a car, plastic tends not to shine as beatiful as a steel panel.

And yes, the Aura drive as well as it looks. It's one of the best driving GM products I've ever driven. I believe you could stick a caddy badge on these cars and no one would know the difference.

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:23 AM   #12
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Anyone who would confuse an Aura with an Audi needs their eyes examined. How can anybody look at the front aspect of an Aura and that huge,bucktooth grille on the Audi and think they are related?

To me,the front of the new Audi looks like the automotive version of a beaver.
Even a lot of us Audi owners don't like the new "fish mouth" look of Audi grills. That's why I don't have a new A6 (and the fact that you can no longer get a 6sp manual or the twin turbo V6).

That said, any confusion on the outside will be quickly remedied when you actually drive it. There is NO comparison in terms of handling or comfort...not even close. If you're on a budget, perhaps that doesn't matter to you since the Aura is a lot cheaper than even a stripped down 6cyl A4 and half the price of an optioned out A6.

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Old 09-21-2006, 12:34 PM   #13
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There is NO comparison in terms of handling or comfort...not even close. If you're on a budget, perhaps that doesn't matter to you since the Aura is a lot cheaper than even a stripped down 6cyl A4 and half the price of an optioned out A6.
Have you driven an Aura? Even though the Aura and A4 are in different classes, I think the Aura is more comfortable. I have a friend that owns an '02 A4 1.8T w/ quattro, and its been in the shop more times than I can count. The fact that he keeps his maintenance up and pampers the car, it should have no reason to be in the shop as much as it is. Factor in repair costs, and the Audi is more expensive than what people orginally bargin for. My friend wants to trade his because he simply cannot afford another repair if it fails because he is out of his warranty period.

In terms of handling, I think my Aura is NEARLY as capable as my friend's A4, and I think if his was w/o quattro, it would be a better comparison. His car has things like heated rear seats and such but when it comes down do it, how many times do you use all of those extra features an Audi would have that the Aura does not?

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His car has things like heated rear seats and such but when it comes down do it, how many times do you use all of those extra features an Audi would have that the Aura does not?
Sometimes you have to remember that you can get stuff aftermarket. There's probably a place that can set you up with heated rear seats if you want and still be less than an Audi. Now quattro would not be something easily added to an Aura but then again how much would it cost to add OnStar to an Audi (unless they offer a version of OnStar like Lexus did/does)? Crash sensors that call someone, that isn't cheap to add to a vehicle. My main point is for every bell and whistle you don't have, most you can get aftermarket but the others can't always get OnStar.

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Sometimes you have to remember that you can get stuff aftermarket. There's probably a place that can set you up with heated rear seats if you want and still be less than an Audi. Now quattro would not be something easily added to an Aura but then again how much would it cost to add OnStar to an Audi (unless they offer a version of OnStar like Lexus did/does)? Crash sensors that call someone, that isn't cheap to add to a vehicle. My main point is for every bell and whistle you don't have, most you can get aftermarket but the others can't always get OnStar.
Actually Audi did offer OnStar (under license from GM) for a couple years... I know I have seen it on the RS6.... Looking at the OnStar website it shows that it was on the 2003 A4, A6, and Allroad.. and on the 2003, 2004, and 2005 A8... From what I rememeber Audi never could intergrate the OnStar system quite right into their vehicles.... not supprising... They love to put a lot of technology into their cars but the execution isn't always quite right.. I remember the first time a new A8L came into the shop with a check engine light on... the tech hooked up the scan tool (which is actually a specialized tablet PC) there was so much information being transmitted and so many system errors that it actually crashed the scan tool... Don't get me wrong.. I do Like Audi's... they are a lot of fun to drive... but if I were ever to get one it would be on a lease so I wouldn't have to deal with it out of warranty.... I would gladly buy an Aura though.. and not have to worry about the cam chain tensioner seals leaking at 55k either (as a service writer I never saw an Audi make it past 70k without needing to have those seals replaced)

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Have you driven an Aura? Even though the Aura and A4 are in different classes, I think the Aura is more comfortable. I have a friend that owns an '02 A4 1.8T w/ quattro, and its been in the shop more times than I can count. The fact that he keeps his maintenance up and pampers the car, it should have no reason to be in the shop as much as it is. Factor in repair costs, and the Audi is more expensive than what people orginally bargin for. My friend wants to trade his because he simply cannot afford another repair if it fails because he is out of his warranty period.

In terms of handling, I think my Aura is NEARLY as capable as my friend's A4, and I think if his was w/o quattro, it would be a better comparison. His car has things like heated rear seats and such but when it comes down do it, how many times do you use all of those extra features an Audi would have that the Aura does not?
As a matter of fact, I drove an Aura over the weekend. I wanted to see what all the hubub was about. There is absolutely no comparison in handling or comfort. Compared to Japanese cars in the same class, it's OK, but there is no mistaking it for a luxury European car either in comfort or in the turns.

Again, if you're on a budget and you're comparing it to other cars in the 25-30k price range, it's OK. But I find it a bit comical to compare it to an Audi. I'd be delighted to go head to head at the track if you feel otherwise. I'd be even more delighted to go head to head at any venue in the rain or snow.

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*raises hand*

Excuse me...but I was just wondering why we're comparing Saturns vs. Audis now after the styling deal? There isn't a comparison between a Saturn and an Audi, because Audi is a luxury brand and Saturn is not. It's really not worthwile. Saturn isn't competing against Audi.

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Compared to Japanese cars in the same class, it's OK, but there is no mistaking it for a luxury European car either in comfort or in the turns.

Again, if you're on a budget and you're comparing it to other cars in the 25-30k price range, it's OK.
What do you like better about, say, an Accord vs. the Aura? Or a Hyundai vs. Aura? The Aura vs. Camry thread already exists so I am curious about other cars in it's class.

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Excuse me...but I was just wondering why we're comparing Saturns vs. Audis now after the styling deal? There isn't a comparison between a Saturn and an Audi, because Audi is a luxury brand and Saturn is not. It's really not worthwile. Saturn isn't competing against Audi.
I don't know either. *shrug*

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LOVE the Aura and can't wait until I can afford one (after the Mazda is paid off )

When I first had my Ion, people would mistake it for a Lexus. Maybe they needed glasses, I dunno. When I bought my Mazda6 Hatch last year, I really loved it because no one had it. Now EVERYONE has it. And not only that, I need parts for it now, and there are NO parts cars. It says something for reliability of a car when there aren't any to part out, and the Mazda 6 has been around since late 02. I see the same thing happening to the new Saturns. They seem like very solid cars. My Ion is still great, and my S was great until the day it died.

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