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Old 06-26-2018, 12:39 PM   #1
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Default New oil, old filter, can I replace the filter if there's oil in the car?

Hello everyone.

I wanted to start doing my own oil changes in my 2006 saturn ion. I've done oil changes countless times in other cars. However after I drained my oil, put the plug back in and on to the filter... I'm usually used to just unscrewing the filter with my hands or a oil filter wrench but with an ion it's right under the hood. Well, after I push fresh oil in I realised I didn't have a large enough socket to get it off. When I pick one up, can I take out the filter while there is full oil in the car?

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Old 06-26-2018, 01:52 PM   #2
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Hello everyone.

I wanted to start doing my own oil changes in my 2006 saturn ion. I've done oil changes countless times in other cars. However after I drained my oil, put the plug back in and on to the filter... I'm usually used to just unscrewing the filter with my hands or a oil filter wrench but with an ion it's right under the hood. Well, after I push fresh oil in I realised I didn't have a large enough socket to get it off. When I pick one up, can I take out the filter while there is full oil in the car?
Yes, you can replace the filter after changing the oil. You'll lose very little oil - especially if you let the engine sit for a while beforehand.

If you plan to keep the car any significant amount of time, you should consider buying the special shallow socket for the oil filter cap. A regular 32mm socket is far too large and won't work because the intake manifold prevents it from being placed squarely on the oil filter lid. You can find the special socket at most auto parts stores for under $10.

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Next time change the filter first, a small amount of dirty oil drains into the sump when you remove the filter. The special socket is a good idea.

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If your oil filter cap is on top of the filter housing as shown in the drawing below, yes you can replace the oil filter whether the engine has oil in it or not.
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The socket I purchased from O'Reilly's is found in the link below. The hex on the oil filter cap is large - 32mm. Although the socket looks like as if it's an impact type don't let it's appearance fool you, it is not.

https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-...r-gm-2-2l-32mm

FWIW, I remove the filter while the oil is draining. The cap and housing are then cleaned of the old oil remnant prior to to installing the new filter and o-ring seal. There is no need to wait until the engine oil drain plug is reinstalled to do those things.

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