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Old 05-02-2018, 01:28 PM   #21
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You are killing me with those pictures! I have a much lower standard of what is not rusty.

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I posted a WTB for the “Transmission Input Shaft Nut Special clutch holding tool” since it is a onetime use tool maybe some wants to sell one they used and no longer are using.
Hi Mark,

I may still have the special tool (made by hein) from when I did the input shaft nut replacement on our former 1999 SW2 a number of years ago. I'll try to take a look tonight after I get home.

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Old 05-02-2018, 01:39 PM   #23
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I bought it off eBay so I was not sure what I was getting. But I am very happy with what I have seen so far.

@MrWhsprs Thanks I appreciate it.

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Old 05-02-2018, 04:52 PM   #24
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@MrWhsprs Thanks I appreciate it.
I just sent you a PM.

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Old 05-02-2018, 05:06 PM   #25
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I replied back. Thanks!

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Old 05-03-2018, 10:36 AM   #26
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I finally found a good price on the dog bone rebuild kits. $26.47 prime shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/Prothane-7-51.../dp/B003AW1CXY

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Old 05-03-2018, 12:18 PM   #27
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That is a good price.

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Old 05-03-2018, 12:45 PM   #28
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That Amazon page also had a link to a OEM bottom transmission mount for $36.09 which is a good price.

Genuine GM 21012951 Transmission Mount

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Old 05-04-2018, 11:07 AM   #29
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Thanks for the link.

Parts on order.
Wheel Cylinders, Caliper rebuild Kits, master cylinder rebuild kit, new coolant hoses, water pump, spark plugs/wires, Trans axle seals, motor mounts, Dog bone rebuild kits, complete motor rebuild kit with timing set and new pistons/rings bearings, oil pump head bolts. Trans mount, Tightening tool and input/output bolts, 3M TL71 thread locker. Key FOB for universal door locks.

I need to order a trans Valve body and local I will have to get some filters/fluids and a thermostat.

We have about what we need for this project on the way.

We will start on the brakes then work on the trans. Once that is done we will pressure wash the motor then take it out and start the rebuild.

I will do a compression test before we motor it out.

My son wants to learn to drive in his car if we can get it done soon enough so we are going to start on the project now.

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Old 05-04-2018, 12:03 PM   #30
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From my thread:
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Has the p/n, dealer, and website.

Totally parallel lives. My two kids are clearly both mine but also very different.
I was able to order them from my local Chevy dealer $20.
It will take a few days but I am in no rush to get them.

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Old 05-04-2018, 03:47 PM   #31
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Some of my parts came in today. The pistons are a different design than the last set I used in my sons 96 SC2.

Here is the last pistons.



This is the new design.


Do you think it will still have good drain back the oil?

I have the rebuilt Central Valve Bodies, valve body on order.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:53 PM   #32
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Those are a copy of OEM pistons with a coated skirt. You wil have to drill holes in the oil ring groove for drainage. This is why I do not buy DNJ. Your last pistons were a copy of the Sealed Power or Silv-O-Lite product.

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Old 05-05-2018, 12:05 PM   #33
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I was expecting them to be the same as the last ones I bought. I will see what the OEM ones look like and decide if I will keep these and drill them or just drill the OEM ones and send them back for a refund.

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Old 05-05-2018, 12:22 PM   #34
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No more than 0.004 clearance on used OEM and no visible skirt wear on thrust faces. The rater obvious lack of routine maintenance probably will lead to a worn block and the need of a rebore.

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Tightening tool and input/output bolts, 3M TL71 thread locker.
FYI the OEM 21001679 output shaft nut I sent you already has its own threadlocker already on the threads, and I think the 21001680 input shaft nut would too but double check when you take it out of the bag.

"NOTICE: Use a new nut due to insufficient torque retention of old nut. Clean shaft threads with wire brush. When tightening and torquing this nut it must be done quickly. The thread locking material used on the new nut will cure in a short time resulting in incorrect torque."

If you haven't already, download the "ISN Tips.pdf" from Chazberry in this post:
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Final clean shaft with acetone and only use a wire brush if there is locking residue on it. It is very difficult to even get at the threads on the input shaft without pulling the clutch pack off which is not recommended.

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Old 05-05-2018, 09:08 PM   #37
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Is the thread locker enough that comes on the OEM nut or should I add extra 3M TL71 thread locker to it?

I found the ISN tip sheet and it said to use 3M TL71 thread locker but that might be because you can’t get the OEM nut anymore.

I big shoutout to MrWhsprs. He was supper nice and sold me his Transmission Input Shaft Nut Special clutch holding tool and OEM inupt/output nuts for a great deal. THANKS!!!

I did compression check today
1: 200 psi
2: 200 psi
3: 200 psi
4: 205 psi
The plug ewer older but looked great.
It looks like I was jumping the gun with a rebuild. That compression check looks great to me.

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If you have an OEM nut use as is. When installing run it down using a torque wrench and continuously crank on it until you reach the final torque, don't stop in the middle.

Engine may be perfectly sound, time will tell.

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We put on one wheel cylinder on the car yesterday. My son really never did any wrenching before but he did good. Lots of good questions on how things work.
We pulled off the valve cover.





Here a couple questions. The timing chain looked good and the gears look fine.
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The interior needs cleaned up but we did work on a bad spot on the back seat.
It needs cleaned up more but the spot looks much better.



I was not sure this spot would come out. It was caked on. You can still see it some. After it drys we will work on it some more.
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