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Old 11-22-2006, 06:32 PM   #161
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Let it go that people think that GM "continues to gain market share"? You are right. Hard to argue against such logical thought processes and facts.

One question to those of you so indignant... how many of you have Driven the 07 Camry or the 07 Accord? Not seen pictures, not looked at specs, but have driven the cars? If you have not, perhaps you should stop comparing the Aura to other GM cars.

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Old 11-22-2006, 06:36 PM   #162
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I was at my dealer today and was told that they had just received an XR with a trim mismatch of over 1/4 inch on one side and 3/8 on the other. The car is in their storage lot at the moment as they do not want it on display.

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Old 11-22-2006, 06:40 PM   #163
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Let it go that people think that GM "continues to gain market share"? You are right. Hard to argue against such logical thought processes and facts.

One question to those of you so indignant... how many of you have Driven the 07 Camry or the 07 Accord? Not seen pictures, not looked at specs, but have driven the cars? If you have not, perhaps you should stop comparing the Aura to other GM cars.
I have driven and work for a dealer principal who own the import contenders, there are pluses and minisus on each but it slants twords the Aura hands down. As a matter of fact I have a 2006 Accord here from trade on an Aura. I am not firing off blinded.
We know better than that...."student of the game"

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Old 11-22-2006, 06:58 PM   #164
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Let it go that people think that GM "continues to gain market share"? You are right. Hard to argue against such logical thought processes and facts.

One question to those of you so indignant... how many of you have Driven the 07 Camry or the 07 Accord? Not seen pictures, not looked at specs, but have driven the cars? If you have not, perhaps you should stop comparing the Aura to other GM cars.
Listen, I think it would be better for you to leave this forum. As already stated, you're not going to convince any us that we were stupid for buying the Aura since it isn't up to par with the Camry. Fact is, it is. It is the most competitive GM vehicle GM has had in a long time. Is it still missing some things? yes. But it doesn't mean it is subpar to the competition. Besides 2 of your complaints, they are lack of features. And the only valid one is the no nav and lockable glovebox. The rest the Camry doesn't have. That is why I looked up the specs. Once again, I will have to wait until I go to my local car show to look at the Camry to see if it has fake stitching, the armrest is solid, and that the center stack "wobbles". BTW, mine doesn't. And the trim pieces on the door line up perfectly.

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:00 PM   #165
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Let it go that people think that GM "continues to gain market share"? You are right. Hard to argue against such logical thought processes and facts.

One question to those of you so indignant... how many of you have Driven the 07 Camry or the 07 Accord? Not seen pictures, not looked at specs, but have driven the cars? If you have not, perhaps you should stop comparing the Aura to other GM cars.
Who said that GM is gaining market share? I didn't. GM is currently #1 in GLOBAL sales, as in the whole planet. We aren't indignant, we're just tired of being portrayed as stupid or uninformed just because we like the way a certain car looks. That's what we're saying needs to be gotten over. Fine, you think the Camry is way better than the Aura as far as the interior goes. Cool. I can respect your opinion. I don't like the way the Camry looks inside compared to the Aura. That's my opinion, you've already shown you have no respect for it. I think the Accord looks nice inside, the Altima looks cheap, the Galant looks dated, the Sebring is just wrong....why can't I like the way the Aura looks? And by admitting that I do, does that make you a better, more intelligent person than I am simply because you think the Camry is better?

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:03 PM   #166
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Listen, I think it would be better for you to leave this forum. As already stated, you're not going to convince any us that we were stupid for buying the Aura since it isn't up to par with the Camry. Fact is, it is. It is the most competitive GM vehicle GM has had in a long time. Is it still missing some things? yes. But it doesn't mean it is subpar to the competition. Besides 2 of your complaints, they are lack of features. And the only valid one is the no nav and lockable glovebox. The rest the Camry doesn't have. That is why I looked up the specs. Once again, I will have to wait until I go to my local car show to look at the Camry to see if it has fake stitching, the armrest is solid, and that the center stack "wobbles". BTW, mine doesn't. And the trim pieces on the door line up perfectly.
He sounds like he was just regurgitating the crap the autorags said. And contrary to his statement, he came here to piss people off. Anytime someone said they like the Aura, he'd pretty much call 'em stupid and go on and on about the Camry.

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:07 PM   #167
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He sounds like he was just regurgitating the crap the autorags said. And contrary to his statement, he came here to piss people off. Anytime someone said they like the Aura, he'd pretty much call 'em stupid and go on and on about the Camry.
I am willing to bet he has fishbreath

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:13 PM   #168
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Let it go that people think that GM "continues to gain market share"? You are right. Hard to argue against such logical thought processes and facts.

One question to those of you so indignant... how many of you have Driven the 07 Camry or the 07 Accord? Not seen pictures, not looked at specs, but have driven the cars? If you have not, perhaps you should stop comparing the Aura to other GM cars.
While I am not one of the "indignant", I am somewhat amused at your assumptions about other peoples opinions and your place in the universe .

To be clear: I know that there are more "luxurious" vehicles out there. If I had wanted one of those, I would have bought it. I know there are "sportier" vehicles out there that will appeal to tweakers and mod-freaks. More power to them. We all have our obsessions and passions.

Years ago, my friends thought I was nuts when I told them that I preferred the more "austere and functional" interiors of the European sedans over the plush and glitzy interiors of some of the high end luxury beasts (like some of the Cadillacs and Lincolns).

Are there variations in fit and finish between different Auras, obviously yes. Mine seems perfect (without reaching for a micrometer).

Last thought about GM vs everyone. GM has an additional challenge that the other cars do not face. Their retirement and benefits package for employees adds something on the order of $1800 to the cost of each car above and beyond the costs for other manufacturers. Considering that in spite of this, they have provided a vehicle with such excellent value, I am quite impressed.

Feel free to obsess over details that are unimportant to many people. I value the solid construction of the chassis, suspension and drive train. The balance of comfort, performance and handling is just my cup of tea. You are not required to feel the same way, just please try not to feel indignant over my difference of opinion.

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:15 PM   #169
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Fine, you think the Camry is way better than the Aura as far as the interior goes. Cool. I can respect your opinion. I don't like the way the Camry looks inside compared to the Aura. That's my opinion, you've already shown you have no respect for it. I think the Accord looks nice inside, the Altima looks cheap, the Galant looks dated, the Sebring is just wrong....why can't I like the way the Aura looks? And by admitting that I do, does that make you a better, more intelligent person than I am simply because you think the Camry is better?
Wow, couldn't have said it better and I agree car by car! Good analysis!!

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