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Old 12-18-2017, 01:00 PM   #1
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Default Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

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The 2008 Saturn Vue owner’s manual states in the “Additional Required Services” section, that for the “V6 engine: inspect valve clearance” at 100,000-miles.

Question, please:
For the 3.5L Honda engine, is there a service bulletin from Honda Corporation advising professional mechanics NOT to “inspect valve clearance” at 100,000-miles despite it being required by the “Additional Required Services” section of the Saturn Vue Owner’s Manual?

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Old 12-18-2017, 05:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

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Background:
The 2008 Saturn Vue owner’s manual states in the “Additional Required Services” section, that for the “V6 engine: inspect valve clearance” at 100,000-miles.

Question, please:
For the 3.5L Honda engine, is there a service bulletin from Honda Corporation advising professional mechanics NOT to “inspect valve clearance” at 100,000-miles despite it being required by the “Additional Required Services” section of the Saturn Vue Owner’s Manual?

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2006 is the correct year of the Vue. Sorry about that.

Another question:
Has anyone successfully ignored valve clearance inspection / adjustment without any emissions code being set for years past 100,000-miles?
My reasoning is that a valve that does not close properly would set an emissions-related code before any harm came to the actual valve.

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Old 12-18-2017, 08:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

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Has anyone successfully ignored valve clearance inspection / adjustment without any emissions code being set for years past 100,000-miles?
My reasoning is that a valve that does not close properly would set an emissions-related code before any harm came to the actual valve.
I think the too tight exhaust valves start throwing random misfire codes first. I'm at 126k mi. on my '07 and still waiting for signs that it needs a valve adjustment.

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Old 12-18-2017, 09:54 PM   #4
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

From what I heard, people that have done a valve adjustment have found the exhaust valves tight, but not tight enough to be concerned about.
Mine has over 165,000 miles on it with no adjustment. Even though there is no smog test required where I live, I have never had a misfire or any emission codes.

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Old 12-19-2017, 08:36 AM   #5
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

Thank you.

Four different mechanics told me, in their own way, that valve adjustment was not a big concern. Your info backs that’s that up.

Sounds like I can adjust the valves myself next summer instead of trying to get a professional to adjust them while he replaces the timing belt and water pump.

My 2.2L turbo diesel has a timing belt and the valves also have to be adjusted. The difference is, the 2.2L turbo diesel can not detect a misfire.

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Sounds like I can adjust the valves myself next summer instead of trying to get a professional to adjust them while he replaces the timing belt and water pump.
I don't think there is any overlap in those jobs. Here's some references that might be useful . . .

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Old 12-19-2017, 10:01 AM   #7
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

Thanks for the links. All Data DIY gives nothing but specifications.

The Ownerls Manual seemed to imply that the jobs needed to be performed at the same time.
Here is my request for quote and the cost estimate written by the service representative:


Evidently, my RFQ was extremely vague because, once the Vue was inside the service garage, $1450 does not include valve inspection.
Besides paying too much, at least I know that I will not immediately ruin a lady’s Vue by failing to award the job to a mechanic who will do the entire “required” maintenance. I have plenty of time to watch some videos and do the job in my driveway next summer

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Old 12-20-2017, 10:40 AM   #8
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

I don't think you need to do it right at 100,000 miles, but it should be done by 130,000 miles. Every one I have done has idled better after adjustment. It can clear the annoying misfire codes. The big risk if you don't adjust the valves is ending up with a burnt exhaust valve. Valve adjustment is much easier than head work.
It is easiest to perform the adjustment at the same time the timing belt and water pump are changed. Valve adjustment is also a good time to replace the Leakey valve cover seals, change plugs, and clean the PCV valve.
After adjustment the only thing you should hear at idle is the injector ticking.

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Old 12-20-2017, 11:21 AM   #9
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Default Re: Valve Adjustment Honda 3.5L Question

Oh, it will run you about $320 in parts including the gaskets, plugs, water pump, and timing kit. Get the Asin kit, IMHO. All Japanese bearings. Replace the tensioner pull pin with a hardened steel pin. I use a Allen wrench. The pin it comes with is too soft and bends. Only special tools needed are bent feeler gauges, a M6-1 screw, and a balancer holding tool you can rent from a FLAPS.
Figure on 8 hours if you have not done it before. Take your time when installing the belt. Double check the work you all ready checked.

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