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Old 05-24-2018, 09:15 AM   #1
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Default how to remove mangled oil filter

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Any suggestions? I'm down to hammer and screwdriver, wd40 and a blowdryer, needlenose pliers, with no movement at all.

Does anyone know the name of that claw ratchet that fits into the holes on the filter, or where to get one?

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Old 05-24-2018, 09:36 AM   #2
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Default Re: how to remove mangled oil filter

Maybe a spanner wrench would work?
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:39 AM   #3
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Ye Gods! I would probably make a custom spanner out of steel.

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Old 05-24-2018, 12:04 PM   #4
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Harbor Freight oil filter vise grips...

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Default Re: how to remove mangled oil filter

How did that happen?

Pic of the wrench I use in this thread
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Not sure if you can fit it on what's left there . . .

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dancehatten, you need something like a spanner wrench or equivalent with a little imagination. If tapping on the holes doesn't unscrew it then maybe sticking a large needle nose plier tips into two holes can work. With the two tips inserted into holes on opposite sides of this mess, holding it in place and using your other hand to apply a vise grip onto the pivot part of the needle nose plier will become a spanner wrench..........
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:58 PM   #7
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Here's one I really like. Like a pair of jaws.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:16 PM   #8
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the OPs picture showing the remains of a destroyed oil filter with only the bottom threaded onto the fitting? If so then there isn't a filter wrench in the world to grab the oil canister that isn't there to grab.

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Old 05-24-2018, 06:35 PM   #9
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the OPs picture showing the remains of a destroyed oil filter with only the bottom threaded onto the fitting? If so then there isn't a filter wrench in the world to grab the oil canister that isn't there to grab.

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Old 05-24-2018, 07:22 PM   #10
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You will have to find a pin spanner that is a square drive so you can use an extension so you can get a breaker bar on what is left. You will probably have to make it yourself or find someone who can make it. All of the common spanners are not going to work and banging on this with a hammer and other tools is obviously failing and will continue to fail. If you gouge the block surface that the rubber seal sets onto that will likely end up destroying the block.

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Ye Gods! I would probably make a custom spanner out of steel.
That is exactly what has to be done.

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Old 05-24-2018, 08:26 PM   #12
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What brand of folder was that?
I hope you gst it off.
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:25 AM   #13
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I would CAREFULLY use an air chisel. With a corner of the chisel stuck in one of those holes, a couple of taps on the trigger will probably get what's left of the filter to spin off the threads. Just be careful to not gouge the mating surface under the filter carcass or the new filter may not seal properly.

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Lots of good suggestions, but, If this was my car, I would use a simple pair of Channel lock pliers and go right on the remaining aluminum thread-hub.

There is enough of the filter aluminum to grip and turn off the stainless steel hub without any tool damage to the steel hub.

A twist of the wrist and the filter skeleton would be loosened.

Some manufacturers call the tool 'water pump pliers' but they are a simple tool (tongue and groove/ratcheting jaw) found at Lowes/Home Depot, etc.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CHANNELLOCK...iers/999914685

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Doesn't the threaded part just screw into the back of the block. I believe the inside is a hex so an allen wrench in there should unscrew the entire mess from the block

once unscrewed from the block you can take it apart on the bench

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Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the OPs picture showing the remains of a destroyed oil filter with only the bottom threaded onto the fitting? If so then there isn't a filter wrench in the world to grab the oil canister that isn't there to grab.
You'd have to grab that base with the wrench, going in straight instead of the side like normal

Spanner would be best but sometimes you are limited to what you have on hand. It looks like he has already chipped away at the right side of the base with a screwdriver.

Maybe removing that large U-shaped bracket might help with access. Have to support the engine though (underneath with a piece of wood on top of a jack, to protect oil pan)

never tried this but if you get really desperate, wrap a bit of clean rag around a screwdriver (to protect the surfaces) and see if you can bend the lip of the filter base away from the mounting part. Keep the tip of the screwdriver away from the contact areas. Most likely the friction of the metal base on the mounting section and the rubber gasket is what is making it hard to turn.

In a moment of weakness, I got an oil change at Walmart once and almost had the same situation. The oil filter was manhandled on so tight the metal of the canister base scored and dug into the metal the mounting area. Screwdriver through the case just ripped the case. Strap wrench just crumpled it.

you're gonna want to clean all that oil off that axle boot afterwards, too

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Default Re: how to remove mangled oil filter SOLVED

Finally . . . three days later and using all of your suggestions, it is off.

-Propped up the engine and remove the engine mount bracket out of way,
-Slid the driver in around the edge to pry it off the surface,
-Allen wrench to loosen the mounting bolt until it turned freely both ways,
and
-Needle nose with driver between handles and TURN, hard.

I will now frame it and mount it in the shop as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Thank you all so much, D.
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Well done! Anybody can do it right the first time, but to fix a screwup takes real skill. I've been in that corner more than once!

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Some of those do not have the inner hex so you can get them loose that way. Your earlier pix did not show that clearly as if that exists it is the easy-off method.

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Well done! Anybody can do it right the first time, but to fix a screwup takes real skill.
lol, now I feel better about the time I spent removing the Walmart tech's screwup of my filter.

should I feel a little bad that I do it right the first time?
Since anyone can do it

(and apparently, not everyone can do it right the first time, as the oil filter in the pics attest to )

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