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Old 02-10-2016, 08:33 PM   #1
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Default Abs traction stability lights

Cold snowy day, backed my car out of the driveway to shovel. Got back in to move the car back and those 3 lights were on. Did not go off after restarting. Dirty or loose abs sensor? Wheel bearing (not hearing any noises) low brake fluid (doubt the cold would affect it) Of course it's supposed to be freezing out the next few days to make it a pita to look at. Any opinions on what to check/try? 08 saturn vue.

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Old 02-11-2016, 01:46 PM   #2
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Default Re: Abs traction stability lights

Low brake fluid would turn on the red brake light since its used to indicate either the parking brake is engaged or low fluid level. Low fluid level is either worn brakes or a leak somewhere in the brake system.

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Old 02-11-2016, 01:47 PM   #3
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Could be water in rear connector x408 or perhaps defective wiring harness.

There's a service bulletin - too large to post full content but Ill post thumbnail.

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Old 02-13-2016, 10:51 AM   #4
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Awesome thanks. I'll try to check those tomorrow when it's a little warmer out.

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Old 02-16-2016, 01:13 PM   #5
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It could also be a wheel speed sensor. I've replaced all four corners on my Vue during my ownership. The replacement AC Delcos have outlasted the originals.

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Old 03-26-2016, 05:45 PM   #6
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It could also be a wheel speed sensor. I've replaced all four corners on my Vue during my ownership. The replacement AC Delcos have outlasted the originals.

Where exactly are these located? I see 3 connectors by the rear passenger wheel. Tried searching but can't find the info. Parts stores haven't been much help except for trying to sell me a wheel bearing. So at least I know the codes are related to that wheel.

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Old 04-06-2016, 01:14 PM   #7
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Hey Grumpy,

Thanks for answering this post. I have the same problem, and believe that it's the connector. Just where is the dumb thing located? My Vue is the 2008 XE.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Old 04-06-2016, 06:02 PM   #8
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Hey Grumpy,

Thanks for answering this post. I have the same problem, and believe that it's the connector. Just where is the dumb thing located? My Vue is the 2008 XE.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Attached illustration is a bit shabby - I'll look for a better one.
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Old 04-06-2016, 06:22 PM   #9
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Here's another thumbnail with slightly improved view of X408.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:05 PM   #10
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Default Re: Abs traction stability lights

Hey folks.. My wife just hopped a curb w her right front wheel when rounding a corner, claims or doesn't think she got back wheel. Following 4 lights came on:

Traction control warn / Traction control off / ABS / Brake warn

Could it be same as illustrated above (X408 harness)? Is there one on the front wheels? Any other suggestion, otherwise? Jamming the curb would seem to imply the harness being knocked loose or broken if there's one up front too

Haven't seen her car yet. Thx very much for any feedback!

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Old 05-01-2016, 01:05 PM   #11
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Here's another thumbnail with slightly improved view of X408.
Code is c0050-00, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to undo the connector to check it.

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Old 07-02-2016, 01:11 PM   #12
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Default Re: Abs traction stability lights

Ok, so if I'm reading this right, there is an X408 connector that runs wires to BOTH rear wheels, correct?

We're not talking about the little connector on each rear wheel of the actual speed sensor when you change them are we?

I need to go look for that, because I've only ever cleaned each of the four speed sensor connectors near the wheel hubs.

The lights do seem to really start acting up after it rains!

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Old 07-02-2016, 02:32 PM   #13
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See thumbnail in post #9 with note.

Wheel speed sensor wiring for both rear wheels are routed through X408 - along with GM data-bus if 2008 Vue has AWD.

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Old 07-02-2016, 02:47 PM   #14
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Default Re: Abs traction stability lights

I got it! I found the little red plastic thing on it can be pulled off and discarded. You have to depress a latch on the mounted female end of it, to get the male side to slide out. Sprayed with auto contact cleaner/protectant.

Lights are off again for now, we'll see if it holds.

Here's today's picture. It's 2WD.

The only other thing I've heard is to clean the connectors on the module. THAT is almost impossible to get to!
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I hope that fixes the problem. The GM solution is to cut wires on either side of connector and splice wires as a bypass.

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It could also be a wheel speed sensor. I've replaced all four corners on my Vue during my ownership. The replacement AC Delcos have outlasted the originals.
P/N for the front: 19256115
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