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Old 05-25-2019, 09:59 PM   #41
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

Yes, I browsed back in the thread and found in reply #7 that the OP had tried the old rotor with no joy.

So, we are down to either the bearing installation or caliper bracket condition/installation. Do the brackets interchange right-to-left?

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Old 05-25-2019, 10:08 PM   #42
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

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Didn't the OP say he put his old rotors back on and had the same issue?
Lot of people seem to be wanting to focus on the new rotors. Eliminate them then you can start on what may be the right issue.
If only the one side had the wheel bearing replaced and it is that side that is rubbing then the issue is caused by something that was done or not done on the bearing replacement.

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Old 05-25-2019, 11:45 PM   #43
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

Was all the rust/crud cleaned off of the knuckle and caliper bracket where they mate together? The contact area there is small enough that just a little bit of crud could tilt the bracket considerably.

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Old 05-26-2019, 06:22 AM   #44
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

In this photo does it appear that the caliper bracket armature that extends from the attachment point to the pin is bent? Perhaps exchange them side to side and see if the problem moves. I'm assuming they are interchangeable.


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Old 05-26-2019, 11:09 AM   #45
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

I'm not seeing anything wrong there about the bracket (not bent) or how it is mounted (tight, not tilted with crud). If I use a lot of imagination (in ample supply with this thread!) I think I see what your are referring to, but I also think that is just "perspective" in the photo.

What I do see, with that photo and the one with the tape measure, is that the nut appears to be in further on the axle shaft than it was before. The rust-to-shiny transition line on the male threads is away from the nut now. Either the axle shaft has stretched that much (impossible?) or the bearing is the wrong length; wrong bearing.

OP, you have pointed out that difference on how the nut seats and I kind of ignored it; sorry. Have you confirmed what brand and P/N the bearing is? You said the snap-ring went in OK, but even if it didn't and the bearing shifted, that nut seating would remain the same. I'm pretty focused on the bearing now... oops, I have to go back to the pix and see if the washer is there!

Well, I'm not seeing the washer in the "tape measure" photo. Will the OP please confirm that it is there, and that it is the OEM washer or thickness?

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Old 05-27-2019, 08:32 AM   #46
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

Changing the caliper mounts side to side would rule them out if the problem doesn't move to the other side. You can do the same with the rotors too but move components one at a time so you can pinpoint the root cause component. If neither of those are conclusive then you've pretty much determined it is the hub, bearing and knuckle assembly.

Wouldn't a rotor shim or two likely resolve this? Like this one from RockAuto....RAYBESTOS BA80506. Not what they are intended for but hey if it works....

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Old 05-27-2019, 07:57 PM   #47
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

^^ Back to square one.
That's what the OP did, only they used washers instead.

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Old 05-28-2019, 08:22 AM   #48
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^^ Back to square one.
That's what the OP did, only they used washers instead.
LOL! I guess but it's a bit more refined.

That said the other option likely involves removing the hub from the knuckle which means destroying the bearing. If it works to shim it then deal with it down the road when the bearing fails (hopefully many 1000's of miles later).

He could swap in a used knuckle that has a good bearing to see if that changes the outcome.

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Old 05-28-2019, 02:45 PM   #49
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

There is no need to destroy the bearing to remove the hub or bearing for inspection. You just need to use the proper tools and procedure.

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Old 05-29-2019, 12:17 PM   #50
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

They say you can't be embarrassed if you keep your mistakes to yourself. You guys have been way to helpful for me to do that.

I pulled the driver side knuckle to compare both sides. I had my "DUH" moment. It was obvious from first glance that the bearing on the driver side was seated correctly. The passenger side, not so much. If I had spent a little more time examining the install, I would have seen the snap ring did not snap into place. I'm surprised it didn't pop out during my test drive.

Anyway, Problem solved. I'm embarrassed and I'll punish myself by having one less beer tonight.
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See post #30 for your free "I told you so". Wheel bearing installation is considerably more complex than most people think.

At least it should be fixed and others can learn from this now closed issue.

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Old 05-29-2019, 07:28 PM   #52
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Default Re: An interesting brake rotor conundrum

I applaud the OP for not blasting us when we suggested the bearing might not be installed correctly. Some people with as much experience as you get angry when we suggest they may have made a mistake. We all make mistakes, sometimes "dumb" ones, no matter how much skill and experience we have.

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Well done! Glad you got it sorted.

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Some people with as much experience as you get angry when we suggest they may have made a mistake. We all make mistakes, sometimes "dumb" ones, no matter how much skill and experience we have.
There was a pretty good thread here a while back on bone headed things we did while repairing our cars

More than once, I "finished" a job only to find a part, or remembering that I forgot to tighten or test some part, then having to take it all apart again.

When I read the monthly Rock Auto newsletter, the repair blunders and trivia are my favorite parts.

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There was a pretty good thread here a while back on bone headed things we did while repairing our cars

More than once, I "finished" a job only to find a part, or remembering that I forgot to tighten or test some part, then having to take it all apart again.

When I read the monthly Rock Auto newsletter, the repair blunders and trivia are my favorite parts.
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