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Old 05-26-2019, 09:21 AM   #1
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Default Inside rear tire wear

I had to recently change out a rear passenger side tire on my Saturn Vue 2007 AWD 3.5L. It was a little weird because it was the only one with major wear, so I suspected something around the area

I took some pictures underneath, and I see that there is a rubber gasket above the coil spring which is broken almost in half, I have included pictures.





1. Would this cause inside tire wear?
2. I'm not sure how long this has been like this, would the coil spring need replacing too?
3. I tried to locate the part, I believe its called a Coil Spring Seat-Insulator Rear, but I only see 'Lower' on ebay... I'm guessing Lower is the part below the spring, I wondered what the part number for the insulator above the spring is called? This is what I found: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202100685444
4. I don't think I need a spring compressor to replace this, just a jack under the axle?

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Old 05-28-2019, 03:10 AM   #2
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1. Would this cause inside tire wear?
2. I'm not sure how long this has been like this, would the coil spring need replacing too?
3. I tried to locate the part, I believe its called a Coil Spring Seat-Insulator Rear, but I only see 'Lower' on ebay... I'm guessing Lower is the part below the spring, I wondered what the part number for the insulator above the spring is called? This is what I found: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202100685444
4. I don't think I need a spring compressor to replace this, just a jack under the axle?
To answer myself, and hoping to help somebody else

3. Part: Moog K160073 Coil Spring Insulator. It is used for Upper and Lower on this vehicle.

I will continue to update for helping others even if this forum seems kinda dead.

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Old 05-28-2019, 08:56 AM   #3
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Default Re: Inside rear tire wear

Look very carefully at the upper and lower control arms where they attach to the frame. Very common to have broken bolts that will cause misalignment.

ALSO - Look at the trailing arm link where it attaches to the frame, once again, broken bolts.

This is a article with photos on my blog site:

http://www.1999southwind.com/2003-sa...t-broken-bolt/

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Old 05-31-2019, 07:06 PM   #4
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Look very carefully at the upper and lower control arms where they attach to the frame. Very common to have broken bolts that will cause misalignment.

ALSO - Look at the trailing arm link where it attaches to the frame, once again, broken bolts.

This is a article with photos on my blog site:

http://www.1999southwind.com/2003-sa...t-broken-bolt/

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Thank you for the info! A great read, I had no idea!! I saw there was a recall for 2004 models, but it would be pretty bad if they continued to use the same bolts (or design) into 2007. I did look anyway, but I didn't see any broken bolts! I had a good scan around both sides!

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2. I'm not sure how long this has been like this, would the coil spring need replacing too?
4. I don't think I need a spring compressor to replace this, just a jack under the axle?
Thank you
I managed to get the job done today... Learnt a lot!

2. I took the coil spring off and it actually looked like it was replaced before I obtained the vehicle. I didn't see any sagging, cracks or any rust, so I left it.

4. I just used a jack under the control arm. No compressor tools were needed. I took out 2 x 18mm bolts and also 1 x 13mm for the underside of the sway bar linkage.
I think the only 'gotcha' was fitting it all back together. I put one 18mm bolt back into the shock, then used to jack to raise it slightly to get the other 18mm hole for the control arm.

I made a video, I will post it up soon.... Hopefully it will help others.

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Old 06-04-2019, 07:32 PM   #5
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Sorry to be so late seeing your posts. My '02 AWD Vue has same rear tire wear as you, both sides. However, only 1 side has a bad (out of place) upper spring cushion. The tilt-in of the tire at the top (camber) is very noticeable when looking from 10 or 20 feet behind the vehicle, and measures at negative 3/8 inch of camber). On mine, I believe the cause is the rubber bushing on the inside end of each forward upper control arm. Look carefully concentricity (or lack of it) of the outer steel shell that holds the bushing vs the center-line of the bolt. In my case they are off center such that the inner ends of the control arms are closer to the center of the vehicle than they would be if the rubber bushings were good. That direction corresponds to a tilt-in of the tire at the top (negative camber). I plan to change the coil spring cushions also---17 years old this year. Gotta be hard rubber by now.

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Sorry to be so late seeing your posts. My '02 AWD Vue has same rear tire wear as you, both sides. However, only 1 side has a bad (out of place) upper spring cushion. The tilt-in of the tire at the top (camber) is very noticeable when looking from 10 or 20 feet behind the vehicle, and measures at negative 3/8 inch of camber). On mine, I believe the cause is the rubber bushing on the inside end of each forward upper control arm. Look carefully concentricity (or lack of it) of the outer steel shell that holds the bushing vs the center-line of the bolt. In my case they are off center such that the inner ends of the control arms are closer to the center of the vehicle than they would be if the rubber bushings were good. That direction corresponds to a tilt-in of the tire at the top (negative camber). I plan to change the coil spring cushions also---17 years old this year. Gotta be hard rubber by now.
Thanks for the share! I will check them out next time I go out!

I haven't driven the Saturn enough to know if my issue has been solved yet, but having the coil spring cushion only half on affected the ride height by a good quarter/half inch (they were surprisingly thick), which im sure contributed to the uneven tire wear.

That being said, I do hear a slight knock coming from the rear when I quickly steer left... I'm figuring a lot of the original bushings have dried out and/or cracked, it has a good 181k miles on it, I bought the car with 175k with no service history, so im not sure what has been replaced, but some suspension components look at though they have been replaced at some point

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