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Old 10-26-2015, 07:32 PM   #1
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Default L series question - LW2 3.0 oil dipstick

Hello everybody:
I have a 2000 saturn LW2 3.0 since 5 years ago, I bought it as it was and actually live in Mexico City, so itīs very difficult to get parts for it. I think the oil dipstick was not the original, and,about 3 weeks ago, for some reason, I found it was destroyed inside the tube, so it is impossible to check the oil level. By any chance, someone can tell me whatīs the length of the original dipstick so I can adjust a universal one to replace it, or an idea where can I buy an original one ?
Thank you in advance, regards
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Old 10-26-2015, 09:38 PM   #2
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Default Re: L series question - LW2 3.0 oil dipstick

Got one nearby, for it's time to visit your local pick-n-pull for that one.

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Old 11-01-2015, 06:26 PM   #3
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Seeing that there has only been one other reply thus far, I thought I'd add my idea to this situation. So here's my suggestion: do an oil and filter change since this will bring the engine oil to the correct level, and then set the adjustable dip stick to the point where the oil measurement will reach the full line mark.

I cannot tell you, however, what the best situation is for checking the engine oil level. For my car, the most accurate check is when the engine is cold. When I check my engine oil level after the engine is warm it always registers as 1/2 of a quart low, even after an oil change. Members whose cars have the V6 will have to respond with regard to this issue.

I think that this is the simplest solution to your problem. I will be watching for any L Series cars with V6's as they make their way into local wrecking yards. If I find one with a good dip stick then perhaps I could send it to you, if the US Postal system will permit it.

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Old 05-26-2018, 05:56 PM   #4
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For my car, the most accurate check is when the engine is cold.
I wish to retract this statement as I no longer believe it to be true. I changed my oil and filter this past Wednesday, the 23rd. On Monday I checked the oil level with the engine cold and the oil level read at 1/2 quart low. When I drained the waste oil back into the 5 quart bottle there were only 4 quarts of oil present, but there should've been something near 4 1/2 quarts. I've been noticing this on other occasions as well. Further, I'd also noticed that after my recent oil change the cold oil level was over full. It appeared to be nearly 1/2 quart over full.

With this in mind, I no longer accept that the most accurate time to check the engine oil level is when the engine is cold. The 2000 L-Series Owner's Handbook states that the oil level should be checked with the engine warm and five minutes after it has been turned off. That's what I'll follow from now on.

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Old 05-27-2018, 10:06 AM   #5
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Default Re: L series question - LW2 3.0 oil dipstick

When you check your oil level, the dipstick is telling you the level in the oil pan. First thing in the morning, when the engine has not been started the level in the pan will be most accurate as most of the oil in the engine has drained back into the pan overnight. Once you start the engine, oil is pumped around the engine, so you will have an amount sat around in oil galleries, etc, etc.

Don't confuse oil capacity with oil level. When you throw in 5 quarts of oil into the engine, you will fill up the oil filter canister as well and doesn't drain back in the oil pan. Most oil pans are never a perfect box, so 1/4" of oil at the top may constitute more than 1/4 " at the bottom. One way to look at that is turn upside a full container of yoghurt that has a tapered body. It's full one way and full the other.

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Old 05-28-2018, 12:29 AM   #6
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I appreciate the reply. My concern here is with the accuracy of the oil level reading on the dipstick. I will share the quote from my 2000 L-Series Owner's Handbook, page 297:

Check your engine oil every time you get fuel. In order to get an accurate reading, the oil must be warm and the vehicle must be on level ground.

Turn off the engine and wait five minutes. This will give the oil time to drain back down into the oil pan after you shut the engine off. If you don't wait five minutes, the dipstick will not show the actual level.
(This quote is intended to apply to both engines as there is no exception to this stated anywhere in the Handbook.)

The factory disagrees with the way I've been checking the oil level for a very long time. It seems reasonable to me that Saturn gave me honest information to help me maintain the vehicle as well as possible. I'm doing my best to see to it that this car's powertrain will reach 300K miles and keep on going after that...

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Old 05-28-2018, 10:57 AM   #7
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I appreciate the reply. My concern here is with the accuracy of the oil level reading on the dipstick. I will share the quote from my 2000 L-Series Owner's Handbook, page 297:

Check your engine oil every time you get fuel. In order to get an accurate reading, the oil must be warm and the vehicle must be on level ground.

Turn off the engine and wait five minutes. This will give the oil time to drain back down into the oil pan after you shut the engine off. If you don't wait five minutes, the dipstick will not show the actual level.
(This quote is intended to apply to both engines as there is no exception to this stated anywhere in the Handbook.)

The factory disagrees with the way I've been checking the oil level for a very long time. It seems reasonable to me that Saturn gave me honest information to help me maintain the vehicle as well as possible. I'm doing my best to see to it that this car's powertrain will reach 300K miles and keep on going after that...
I understand what the manual states But I do not agree with what it says. When I went on a trip last month I stopped for gas after 400 miles and waited 5 minutes to check the oil. My stick showed about 1 quart low so I add a quart. Next day I checked the oil in the morning and it showed overfull by about 3/4 of quart. I drained the excess then checked again. Oil was on the full mark with cold engine.

Logic tells me that gravity will drain most of the oil from the upper end back in to the pan over night. I have been checking oil in the morning for 45 years and will continue to do so no matter what the manual says.

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Old 05-28-2018, 06:59 PM   #8
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I understand what the manual states But I do not agree with what it says...
You're reasons for this are understandable and fine with me.

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...I have been checking oil in the morning for 45 years and will continue to do so no matter what the manual says.
Great, and I hope that all continues to go well! As a point of information, does your Owner's Handbook read similarly to mine about checking the oil level?

What was written in post #4 is merely my decision to take back a position I previously held and present my reasons for doing so. I am happy with whatever a person chooses to do which provides good maintenance and longevity to their car's engine and transmission. I will follow up on this after the next oil change is done to verify whether or not this course of action was the correct one. If I need to amend my position again then I will do so.

To be clear, I am not suggesting to anyone that they follow my manner of maintenance practice one way or the other. Strictly speaking, I am trying to be intellectually honest with members here and nothing more than that.

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