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Old 11-28-2019, 01:56 PM   #1
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Default Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

I drive about 100 miles on the highway daily.

I'd like to buy some winter blades for the Saturn. Anyone have thoughts on brand/model/beam/conventional?

I had winter blades many years ago on a vehicle and the wind would tend to lift them. This was before beam blades became a thing. I've had non-winter beam blades (cheapies) and they were not impressive.

I'll be ordering through Rockauto.... they have lots to choose from at low prices.

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Old 11-28-2019, 02:43 PM   #2
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

I'm running Bosch Icon Beam on the Focus, Michelin Stealth Hybrid on the Suburban and Mastercraft (now Reflex) conventional on the SL2. I have a set of Bosch Icon Beam for the Saturn that I have not installed yet. I wouldn't say any of them do a terrible job.

The conventional, the same type the car came with new, in wet snow conditions tend to get iced up and need to be cleaned before you drive the next time. Once you're all warmed up they are fine. They are the most economical and sometimes I have just replaced the rubber and keep the frame. This is my summer go to and I've left them on so far as they are not worn at all.

The beam style, in the past, I have found are not as durable. Especially when you are scraping ice and snow off the windshield. The scraper tends to be rough on them (or maybe it is the operator) and then ends pop off. They do a good job of cleaning the windshield though. They are pretty pricey in my opinion and this typically makes me go with another option. I was feeling frivolous this fall when I splurged for them for the 2 vehicles (5 blades at ~$20+ per ea).

The hybrid I bought at Costco ($9.99/ea) and I ran them on the Saturn last winter too. The price was what enticed me and they performed well. If you can get them at this price this would be my recommendation. They don't get iced up.

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Old 11-29-2019, 09:26 AM   #3
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

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I'm running Bosch Icon Beam on the Focus, Michelin Stealth Hybrid on the Suburban and Mastercraft (now Reflex) conventional on the SL2. I have a set of Bosch Icon Beam for the Saturn that I have not installed yet. I wouldn't say any of them do a terrible job.
Unfortunately, Rockauto doesn't have any of those. They do have the Bosch Snow Driver, but only one side :-/

It looks like Reflex is a Canadian brand when I googled it.

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Old 11-29-2019, 03:42 PM   #4
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

The cheap ones.

De- ice the windshield - keep the defroster on - and they all work pretty much the same.

That's 40+ years of Michigan winters and 4 in Alaska talking.

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Old 11-29-2019, 04:17 PM   #5
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

I used rubber booted wiper blades, the type with a soft rubber cover surrounding the older style wipers with a frame that collects wet snow. Year's ago when driving in very wet fresh snowfall, the windshield would form snow dams on the bottom and sides. I stopped every few miles under an overpass to use a snow brush to break off wet snow dams then get back into the car for another few miles before repeating. That was one of the worst snow storms to drive in - get-home-itis. I was alone. No one was on the thruway with an occasional truck passing me as I was cleaning off snow buildup. Everyone stayed home that evening while driving south from upstate NY near the Canadian border to NYC. I think I have a set for winter use but haven't driven in those conditions. I liked them for their thicker rubber wiper blades compared to thin all weather blades. Are there thicker blades made for winter use in the latest beam type wipers? I switch from summer blades to winter blades to have a little advantage as I'm not impressed regular blades work in freezing weather even with better synthetic rubber blades.

Do the flexible beam low profile wiper blades work better to shed heavy wet snow falling on windshields? Or do you stop off the side of the road or highway to use a snow brush or scraper to break of snow/ice buildup on wipers and edges around the windshield? My guess is every vehicle has slightly different windshield angles, some hide their wipers while others are exposed with each vehicle allowing snow to fall away or clump on the edges of windshields, either collecting on wiper blades and interfering with wiping action or not collecting wet snow.

Having remote start, I've used them for two purposes; preheating the windshield on startup when icing or frozen snow accumulates and initial cabin warming. Being more concerned about defrosting the windshield, I preset the hvac system for defrost mode on the hottest setting and medium blower speed. In the time it takes me to get shoes and coat on, the slight warm-up of the windshield allows easier ice/hard snow to break off with a brass bladed ice scraper. Once the windshield has any warmth from defrost air, ice scraping isn't difficult. The side and rear windows warm up too for quick ice scraping. I try not wasting gas on these freezing weather startups and practiced this method over the years to minimize time scraping ice and snow. Temps are around freezing or below. I would imagine taking a little longer in very cold temps but if the car is warming up with front and rear defrosters on, the warming heat helps to create the temperature differential between windshield and ice to allow easier ice scraping. Once enough warmth is felt on the windshield, ice breaks off and melts as more ice floats off. That seems to be the best in melting ice and snow for removal before jumping back into the car and diving off. On those days where a layer of snow covers the car, I let the blower have more time heating everything inside as defrost mode concentrates all heat to the windshield as I spend the time brushing off snow completely. The few minutes spent brushing off snow lets all the windows warm-up for easier ice and snow removal. That would be the most time idling to warm up the windows. The cabin warms up too but I'm more concerned about clear windows since driving and engine heat lets the interior become cozy. Take care to remove snow and ice buildup on the car exterior and widows and a clear view makes driving less hazardous.

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Old 11-29-2019, 05:07 PM   #6
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

My issue is that it seems that the smallest piece of snow/ice seems to prevent the wipers from conforming well to the windshield. I'll get salt spray on the windshield and need to run the wipers and often end up with areas that I can't see through well.

I think I'm going to order some Trico beam winter blades.

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Old 11-29-2019, 07:32 PM   #7
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Any of the beam blades work better than anything else. Pull them off the glass when you park and do not forget to clean all the glass before putting them back down.

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Old 11-29-2019, 08:43 PM   #8
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

I just put "Trico 35-##0 Ice Extreme" all around on my current car. Replace the ## with the length of wiper you need (21 and 20 I believe with the S-Series) to get your part number. I haven't had any issue's with them moving water or snow so far, but they haven't had a major storm to test by either.

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Old 11-29-2019, 08:51 PM   #9
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I just put "Trico 35-##0 Ice Extreme" all around on my current car. Replace the ## with the length of wiper you need (21 and 20 I believe with the S-Series) to get your part number. I haven't had any issue's with them moving water or snow so far, but they haven't had a major storm to test by either.
Lol, I just canceled my Rockauto order for those exact blades after I read some of the negative reviews, on Amazon, and the other Bosch Snowdriver became available from Rockauto.

Oh well.

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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

Rain-X Lattitude or Quantum work very well. They are expen$ive, so I remove them after the spring monsoons and save them in the basement for the next late fall time of year.
In the sunny months, I use blades that are a few years old. The plastic in the beam blades seems to get more brittle in the hot sunshine and then they don’t curve/form to the windshield in cold winter weather.

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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

> seems to prevent the wipers from conforming well to the windshield.

This my issue, every VW and Saturn, primarily on larger drivers side.
Last March I hurriedly bought some blades from AutoZone. Less than a year, they disintegrated, and they performed like crap.

I had previously bought cheapest Ammco beam type for my '97... and they were barely acceptable (better than conventional).
This year bought Bosch Evolution from RockAuto… reasonable price
AND THEY WORK!. I never had an issue with pickup truck wipers, but all my compact cars stank.

Bosch Evolution NICE.
Also, I think the blades at AutoZone may have been old stock with dry rubber... or just typical Chinese junk.

Bosch Evolution … not the cheapest Bosch BEAM type.

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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

Ok back to the Trico Ice.... I found them locally on a Black Friday special at Meijer's. They were about the same price as Rockauto.

I just installed them, but haven't even started the car up yet. They seem a little wobbly, but that may not make much difference.

I also noticed that I need new wipers for my truck. One of the rubber pieces is coming off. Those were economy level Denso wipers. I was quite pleased with those when new a few years ago. They were super cheap. I may purchase them again.

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Old 11-30-2019, 10:43 AM   #13
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Default Re: Attention northerners....Winter wiper blade reccomendation?

I just checked my purchase history on Rockauto.... apparently I was wrong on the Denso wipers. I got the standard conventionals, so not the cheapest, or as cheap as I was thinking. They were purchased in January of 2017, so 2+ years old. They were $4 something each, plus shipping.

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I used to keep a cheap unused toilet brush handy on the floor under my knees. As snow and slush accumulated I would roll down the side window and brush away what I could reaching forward around to the windshield. The bristles facing every direction design worked perfectly.

Time for a trip to the dollar store.

Now I buy cheap blades and remove them from their arms to slip them into my snazzy looking streamlined plastic covered Michelin arms. Home depot was selling cheap blade/arms for $2.99 last time I stocked up.

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My issue is that it seems that the smallest piece of snow/ice seems to prevent the wipers from conforming well to the windshield. I'll get salt spray on the windshield and need to run the wipers and often end up with areas that I can't see through well.

I think I'm going to order some Trico beam winter blades.
One consumer comment revealed Trico winter blades are extra thick and a plus, possibly lasting a little longer. My guess is switching blades between winter and the rest of the year can prolong two sets of blades. In doing that with my car.

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The top of the line Bosch is well worth the money.

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I bought some Peak “Snow Beast wiper blades” at the end of the summer when they where on sale. I haven’t had to use them in snow yet but they’re definitely better than the old non-beam style blade I had on it before.

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Just to add another viewpoint, I always buy the cheapest ones I can find. When they stop working I do it again.

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OldNuc commented earlier about locking the arms in an UP position (presumably while you parked for a while)....

2 comments on this practice.
- not all vehicles have that lock in the up position anymore,
- I don't do this because I worry about something jarring them and those wiper arms end up smashing into the windshield with a damaging glass crack.

I use beam ones on all my cars and find them to work well for years.
If they streak or skip areas, I run sandpaper along the length and that restores them perfectly.

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Just to add another viewpoint, I always buy the cheapest ones I can find. When they stop working I do it again.
^ I second that. ^

While blades are adapting to using synthetic rubber to prolong life, uv exposure never goes away as part of weathering effects to degrade wiper blades. I squeegee all the glass to at least remove the collected fallout before turning on wipers. Washer fluid from a spray bottle comes in handy too for dry days with a squeegee.

To each his own....

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