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Old 12-30-2010, 12:14 AM   #61
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Classic bad cruise module symptom. Find a replacement in a salvage yard.

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Old 12-30-2010, 01:53 AM   #62
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The module bolted to the column. 96-01 and probably 02 will work. Stay with gen-2 for best results.

Good luck with the test run.

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Old 01-03-2011, 11:34 PM   #63
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:21 PM   #64
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*huge sighs*

Here we go. About 1000 miles since I rebuilt the head. Car has been running great and been very reliable until last week when the water pump went out, and the belt has been really squeaky for about 300 miles.
Late last night it was like 15 below outside. I started the car and the belt starts squeaking loudly as usual. I didn't want to wake ppl up so I jumped in and took off without letting it warm up for more than a minute. About 1/2 a mile down the road the car died and wouldn't start again. Had my Dad come and tow me home.

I've charged the battery, nothing.
Tried jumping it, nothing.
before pulling the starter I tried turning the crank manually and it's stuck solid.

What?! Am I screwed here? Crank won't turn either way. It has been starting rough and slow lately but I just assumed it was because of the cold.

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Old 01-23-2011, 09:13 PM   #65
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That does not sound good. What does the oil look like?

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Old 01-23-2011, 09:20 PM   #66
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You never pulled the pistons or dropped the pan on the last repair did you?

If not I would suspect a stuck piston(s).

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Old 01-23-2011, 10:32 PM   #67
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didn't do either. and yeah i think it's a stuck piston. The starter was kind of working (slowly cranking) until it finally just clicks once and doesn't turn at all. Is this a catastrophic failure? Somehow there is almost no oil in it. Dunno how this would happen as i checked it about 500 mi. ago and i haven't seen any significant leaking.

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Old 01-23-2011, 11:05 PM   #68
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You have had a couple of low oil events and probably overheating also. Could be any number of things but it has to come apart to figure it out. A 95 to 98 running engine will drop in though. Depending on where you are and the local market a running engine and having a good core to rebuild may be the quick fix. After you rebuild one then you can sell the used engine. Good running DOHC engines do not last long at the scrap yard so if you find one, grab it if you decide to go that way.

When a piston galls you tend to eat oil at an alarming clip.

Check for engines locally here. http://car-part.com/ Check each year 95-98 as some are not entered correctly.

There are some available in MN for decent prices.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:04 AM   #69
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This is how these engines commit hara kiri. A couple of low oil events because of the sticking oil control rings, then they burn even more oil, the oil may not get checked for a couple of weeks, and then you have a dead engine. It really helps to be somewhat paranoid in checking your oil more than you think you should have to, and to have a couple of quarts in the trunk.

Depends upon the engine, but they may not leak externally as much as burn it past the piston rings or valve seals.

Was it making more noise before it quit? Once you've been driving these long enough, you know it needs oil just from the slight changes in tone, it may not be much of a difference, but it is there.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:47 AM   #70
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No, it was acting just fine when warm. No indication of a problem as far as I could tell. Alas, I don't think i'm gonna put anymore in this car right now. Prolly just gonna park it for the winter and look for something new. Thanks for the tips and whatnot. I'll be around.

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When a piston galls there is no noticeable noise that you will hear inside the car. Sometimes they will squeal like a stuck pig on startup and then quiet right down. The possible clue here is the dragging starter and the "squealing belt" you really do not find out what failed until you take it apart. What is important to remember is that the drive belt is not known for squealing like a "V" belt will. Serpentine belt failure symptoms are not identical to "V" belt failure symptoms. A galled piston that decides to make noise sounds remarkably like soft white chalk on a real slate blackboard. Once you hear it you will never forget it.

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Old 01-24-2011, 01:04 AM   #72
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well that explains the squealing. i just thought the drivebelt was slipping. Really sad day for me. Almost a month of work for only 1000 miles. Makes me wish I had just dropped a new engine in it the first time. Just a learning experience I guess.

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Well, it is always a gamble when you have a head crack and blow oil all over as to what else may be damaged and going to fail soon. The only way you find these things out is to experience them as it is impossible to describe it unless you have experienced it and then it is just confirmation of the symptoms. You could rebuild the dead motor or look for a local runner, that is the first decision point. As you have a good head the cost will be very close for either option.

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