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Old 08-23-2019, 11:14 AM   #1
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Default PCV elbow for fixed orifice Fram PCV

Good morning everyone:

I recently decided to switch to the fixed orifice PCV valve and bought the Fram Fv410. Upon going to make the switch, I noticed that the OEM style one in there had the plastic elbow on it to go into the pcv hose. A few questions:

1) Is there a way to remove this plastic elbow without breaking it/rendering it useless?

2) If question 1 is no, do they sell a version of the plastic elbow? Part #? (Autozone says there isn't one for the saturn but they do sell a variety of general dorman ones)

3) On rockauto, up to the 1996 model year, they list out the Dorman grommet 42341 and AC delco hose 21007297, but they are not listed for the 1999 model year which I have (built in Feb 98 so gen 2 style engine before changes made). Will buying this hose solve the issue of the plastic elbow and will this grommet fit?

Appreciate it and a great weekend to everyone!

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...on)+hose,11784

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Old 08-23-2019, 11:37 AM   #2
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Default Re: PCV elbow for fixed orifice Fram PCV

#1 yes hair dryer on high or heat gun set for 180F or so.

#2 Do not ever tell the counter guy what you are using a part on when you give them a part number. If you do you will get all kinds of bad info.

#3 all 99 model year Saturns have the narrow head engine. If you relly want to check match the dash VIN plate to the engine vin stamping and they better match. The PCV grommet will fit. Feb 98 build date would be a 98 model year car.

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Old 08-23-2019, 02:23 PM   #3
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#1 yes hair dryer on high or heat gun set for 180F or so.

#2 Do not ever tell the counter guy what you are using a part on when you give them a part number. If you do you will get all kinds of bad info.

#3 all 99 model year Saturns have the narrow head engine. If you relly want to check match the dash VIN plate to the engine vin stamping and they better match. The PCV grommet will fit. Feb 98 build date would be a 98 model year car.
Thanks for the help OldNuc. I only checked Autozone's website so don't worry wasn't actually gonna ask for the info from them lol. I mistyped and wrote 98 instead of Feb 99. Just wanted to make sure the new grommet would fit. I guess the Delco hose with the clamps won't fit though due to the narrow head engine? I watched Richpin's video and he has that version of the hose and I believe he was working on his blue 98 SL2. It looks like that hose has the necessary elbow built into it, only reason I'm asking. Thanks again.

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There are molded hoses with an elbow in them or you can find the generic nylon elbows and use a straight piece of hose. This can turn into an arts and crafts project.

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Old 08-24-2019, 10:03 AM   #5
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Default Re: PCV elbow for fixed orifice Fram PCV

Look on Rock Auto under other years...

I see some with the elbow under 2002...

This is true for many parts,
looking under SC, SL or SW,
and/or a different year
can yield more results...

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Old 08-25-2019, 02:10 PM   #6
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Default Re: PCV elbow for fixed orifice Fram PCV

Well followed your advice OldNuc and used a hair dryer to the old AC Delco version with the plastic elbow and got it off with no trouble. Fram PCV is now in and hopefully curbs my oil burning. Thanks again!

And I did pull the older style pcv hose from a 97 SL2 down at the junkyard and it did not sit right as it was about 1/2 inch too short and this caused the pcv valve to sit at an angle. That's when I decided to heat the other one and keep the current s shaped hose. Basically was an arts and crafts project haha!

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Yes, I have made several of those hoses fit nicely.

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