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Old 08-13-2017, 10:24 PM   #41
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Just found your post. The car is going to be like new when you get done! What a great project with your son.
I see in the earlier post that you will be using the red paint that is used on farm equipment. If the farm equipment is made of metal and the paint is formulated for a metal surface, I wonder if, because you will be painting the plastic, Saturn body, if there would be an expansion/contraction issue---and would it be better going with a paint that was made specifically for plastic, etc.??? I really don't know because I have no experience with this but maybe someone who does know can comment? Good luck with your project!

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Old 08-13-2017, 11:24 PM   #42
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Sometimes it is hard to step back, but there are generations of people unable to work with their hands because their fathers couldn't. You and I are working to the same playbook.

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Old 08-14-2017, 12:42 PM   #43
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That is a good question. When we get to the painting part of the project. I my take off a fender or door panel and just paint that part to make sure it will work well. I would love to just get the flacking clear off and reclear coat it. But I don't see that happing.

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I canít wait until you and your son start the motor up.

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Old 08-14-2017, 01:39 PM   #44
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This thread is well worth watching, what a great project! My dad did some similar work with me when I was younger; so glad he did!!

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Old 08-14-2017, 07:04 PM   #45
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That is a good question. When we get to the painting part of the project. I my take off a fender or door panel and just paint that part to make sure it will work well. I would love to just get the flacking clear off and reclear coat it. But I don't see that happing.

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Yes I think we are and I have enjoyed the thread on your build.
I canít wait until you and your son start the motor up.
The thing I was wondering about was not how well the paint you already have will look after it's done-----it's more a question of how well it will "weather" ---- expand and contract with temperature changes, i.e., regular metal paint on plastic surfaces. Anyone else know if this would be a problem, down the line??

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Old 11-24-2017, 03:57 PM   #46
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Black Friday parts for my sons Saturn rebuild. $281.49 shipped.
We hope to work on it over this Xmas break.



I just got another sunroof motor. I need to look to see what else is wrong other than just a bad motor.
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:23 PM   #47
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Love this build! I have a red '96 SC2 as well. See my post: http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=228525

And I was trying to document via but not updated recently:

https://docs.google.com/presentation...9851a86ee_0_42

I do want to paint the car and really want to see how it goes for you guys! Will keep an eye on this thread.

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Old 12-30-2017, 07:22 PM   #48
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@cpy911 good to see your car is running well.

My son is off for Xmas break so we are working on the car again.
We got the motor out today and took it apart. No real big surprises so far.



The cat wanted to help.




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Old 12-30-2017, 08:55 PM   #49
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I hae seen much worse.

Read the other rebuild threads so you don't repeat any of the common mistakes.

DOHC (1995) same 95-98
https://picasaweb.google.com/1159762...L6UoammvrKEsAE

Complete overhaul 98 and older engine
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=170045 ehunter
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=145250 cboss
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:25 PM   #50
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Looks good Mark! This is the fun part.

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Old 12-31-2017, 01:26 AM   #51
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@OldNuc Thanks for the links
@Waiex191 Lots of clean up ahead. We take apart the head tomorrow.

My son cleaned up the head liner a couple days ago. We just need a warm day to install the new material.

The pistons have the bottom rings locked in just like all the other Saturnís.
We have new pistons to install so we are go to go on that.

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Old 12-31-2017, 09:55 AM   #52
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Drill holes in those pistons or buy pistons that are properly designed with the drain back ports from the factory.

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Old 12-31-2017, 08:41 PM   #53
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I have a new set of pistons just waiting to go in.


We dissembled the head. The cleanup begins.




I see that there is no oil pan gasket what is recommended to get to seal that up.
My engine hone is older one with stones. I see most here use a ball hone? Is that needed?
I have only ever used a stone hone in the past.
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:51 PM   #54
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Ball hone only. 240 grit for plain rings and 320 for molly, either one works just cut down on the full strokes from 6 to 4 if you use a 240 with molly rings which is the recommended ring type. Several choices for sealant, all depends on if you want next to no working time or more than adequate working time. RTV is no working time, The Right Stuff is limited working time, and Permatex Permashield, #85420 and you probably will have to search for it. Do read instructions carefully or it will not function correctly. All surfaces must be cleaned with acetone before applying sealants or gaskets, no exceptions. Permatex Ultra Slick works well as the assembly lube. Use this on the oil pump and do not pack with grease, use the oil system prime procedure. HAYNES is not correct beware. All info is in links I posted.

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New OEM belt tensioner ordered
Brass Temp sensor and transmission temp sensor.
All new hoses, NKG plugs and plug wires.
Front seal for the transmission.
Oil bypass valve.
Plastigage, Permatex Ultra Slick assembly lube, Ball hone.

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That ACDelco tensioner is not the original OEM design.

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Great I ordered the ACDELCO 38112 is that not the right one. I can still cancel it if necessary. I ordered it from rockauto.
Is there a better one?

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Dayco or Gates, early or late housing design, they are all the same. Flat back is early and cone back is late design, they changed early in the 98 model year. Early fits all blocks but late requires the late blocks as the hole in back is large enough for the cone. Late design works better and plastic pulley to absorb shocks. Some last forever and some don't --pot luck.

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I canceled the ACDelco tensioner and ordered the gates.
The car came with new water pump, belt, idler pulley and thermostat.

I forgot to order gas filter and oil filter.
Other than fluids everything else is on it way.

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WIX fuel filter and WIX 51516XP oil filter.

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