SaturnFans.com
saturnfans.com - classifieds - forums - webmail


Go Back   SaturnFans.com Forums > Models > Saturn Vue > Vue General

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2003, 02:26 PM   #1
Badger_Vue
Member
Badger_Vue is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 51
Roll Eyes FWD VUE in the snow comments

We just got our first significant snow of the season and I had my first experience with the 4 cyl VUE FWD. I had been anticipating it since I got the VUE with TC way back in April. Frankly I was mildly disappointed.

It is a little lighter than the Caravan I used to have, so granted, I would notice a difference. My disappointment came with the inability to get up my unplowed driveway with about 6 inces of snow. The van may not have made it either, but I guess I was expecting more from the TC.

I've kind or chalked it up to the snow being on the wet side, but the tires seem to spin rather easily, even after the drive was cleared of most of the snow, and it turned colder.

Any other comments from FWD VUE owners in the northern climes? I'm wondering if it is due mostly to the tires. It only has 13K, so wear isn't an issue. I just don't think the stock tires have that good of tread pattern. I've never had a vehicle with TC before, so don't have a good comparison. My 96 SL1 does pretty good though.
Thanks for any other impressions on how the VUE handles in snow, or any suggestions on replacement tires for when the time comes.
Badger_Vue is offline  
SaturnFans.com Sponsored Links
Old 02-05-2003, 04:51 PM   #2
CanVueYes!
Member
CanVueYes! is on a distinguished road
 
CanVueYes!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Scarborough, ON, Canada
Posts: 290
 
Default Re: FWD VUE in the snow comments

Quote:
Originally posted by Badger_Vue


I've kind or chalked it up to the snow being on the wet side, but the tires seem to spin rather easily, even after the drive was cleared of most of the snow, and it turned colder.

That is confusing. Isn't the TC supposed to eliminate the spin?

So far my FWD and TC have performed marvelously on the messy Toronto roads.
CanVueYes! is offline  
Old 02-05-2003, 06:03 PM   #3
Badger_Vue
Member
Badger_Vue is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 51
Default

That was my expectation - that the spin would be reduced. It just seems like the tires broke traction very easily.

By the way I failed to mention in the first post that I have the Sport edition with a 5 spd manual. We're getting a couple of more inches today, so I'll give it another try.
Badger_Vue is offline  
Old 02-05-2003, 06:14 PM   #4
L300Boy
Master Member
L300Boy is on a distinguished road
 
L300Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 4,249
 
Default

TC on the L300 works great.....tires dont spin with it on...but it does generate a lot of noise in very low traction conditions. The ABS goes nuts....and the engine retards....
L300Boy is offline  
Old 02-05-2003, 06:48 PM   #5
Saturnmeister
Senior Member
Saturnmeister is on a distinguished road
 
Saturnmeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,409
Idea

The thing you have to remember about traction control is that all it can do is to try and make the most of what traction you actually have. Tires, as you have raised your own suspicions about, are one of the (if not THE) key factors. So-called "All Season" tires may offer some snow traction compared with tires with treads intended only for "Summer" (i.e., no snow) usage, but they are most certainly NOT "Snow Tires", and when put to a more trying test (as climbing a steep incline with snow on it), those limitations will show. A snow tire is about more than just tread pattern, it's about tread compounds, which in snow tires are specifically designed to grip under cold temperatures and snow/ice covered surfaces. Another hint: With weight transfer going away from the direction of travel (i.e., towards the back wheels when you're going uphill in particular, but at all times when moving forward in point of fact), you'll find it a lot easier to BACK up that driveway than go forward up it under those conditions. Learned that lesson in my first car and the driveway at my mother's house, which had a steep profile, briefly, before it flattened out. My '78 Honda Civic would spin it's wheels trying to pull the car up that incline when it was snow covered, but turn it around and I could back it right up that same incline with no problem at all.
Saturnmeister is offline  
Old 02-05-2003, 09:02 PM   #6
ProDarwin
Master Member
ProDarwin is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Winston-Salem
Posts: 3,597
 
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Saturnmeister
The thing you have to remember about traction control is that all it can do is to try and make the most of [I]what traction you actually have
Exactly. Yesterday, I got my SW2 somewhat stuck in the mud. At idle, the car would stay still, and both front wheels would spin slowly. I had to mash the gas forward, and then back up really fast to get out.
...
-Travis
ProDarwin is offline  
Old 02-06-2003, 09:22 AM   #7
mr weather
Senior Member
mr weather is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 1,918
 
Default

Are the tires on your particular VUE much different than the AWD6 version? I've found the Bridgestone Dueller HT's on mine to be not so bad. However, I'm contemplating buying a set of steel rims and winter tires next fall. I hate the thought of putting those 16" aluminum beauties through another season of road salt!
mr weather is offline  
Old 02-24-2003, 09:28 PM   #8
3der
Junior Member
3der is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milton, Canada
Posts: 48
Happy Snow

6 cyl AWD Vue. I have found it amazing. It has never hesitated with anything I threw at it. Polished snow, deep snow, wet heavy snow, it never seemed to hardly feel it. I watched 4 people push a Honda out of an unplowed parking area...after a lot of tries they finally succeeded. I just drove out like it was on pavement!
However, I did have an instance where it was very reluctant to start at -26 deg. C. eh!

Ron
3der is offline  
Old 02-24-2003, 11:17 PM   #9
OhioVueBoy
Master Member
OhioVueBoy has a spectacular aura aboutOhioVueBoy has a spectacular aura aboutOhioVueBoy has a spectacular aura about
 
OhioVueBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: N. Bethesda, Maryland (DC) (Dayton Ohio Native)
Posts: 9,295
 

2002 VUE 2.2L
Default

Next time that happens, turn the TC off, and let the tires spin. That is why they provide you with the switch.. sometimes spinning will dig your way in.
~D.J.~
...
2012 Mercedes Benz C250 Sport Sedan
2008 smart fortwo Passion Coupe 8/28/2008 - 3/12/2012
2002 VUE FWD4m - Gone but not forgotten. 5/14/2002 - 10/31/2011
OhioVueBoy is offline  
Old 02-25-2003, 09:37 AM   #10
skijay
Senior Member
skijay will become famous soon enough
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Avon, CT
Posts: 1,115
 
Default

I have the VUE 5 speed with FWD w/ TC. From my experience driving in the snow, is that there is a lot of torque that goes to the drive wheels and the TC does it's best to limit that power and try to apply some to to give you the traction after the wheels slip. It is almost like the engine's power is more than the TC can handle.

What I have done is when the wheels start to slip and the TC kicks in I let off of the gas. I will then reapply the throttle and most of the time I am back to full traction.
...
2009 Subaru Forester / AT
2006 Scion Xa / AT

Former Saturns all bought new:
2003 Saturn VUE 2.2 / 5 sp
2001 Saturn L100 - 5 sp
1997 Saturn SL2 - AT
1996 Saturn SL2 - 5 sp
skijay is offline  
Old 02-25-2003, 02:32 PM   #11
Badger_Vue
Member
Badger_Vue is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 51
Default

Skijay - I agree it seems to be the extra torque that makes it spin so easily. I don't have near the problem with my SL1 and a 5 spd. I'll try your approach if we ever get any more significant snow this season (not that I'm hoping for it or anything!)
I may go to a little more aggressive tread pattern on my next set or tires also.
Badger_Vue is offline  
Old 02-25-2003, 11:01 PM   #12
silvervoo
Senior Member
silvervoo is on a distinguished road
 
silvervoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: oh.us.na.earth
Posts: 1,012
 

2003 VUE 2.2L
Default

Traction control was most beneficial to me when trying to climb an icy hill-- I don't think I would have made it up without it controlling the wheel spin. But in 6in of snow, like others have said, there is only so much traction to be had. That said I made it through about 6-8 inches snow on our unplowed street recently, but I turned TC off, and I still got stuck once and had to reverse and try again, but I made it through eventually.

A set of snow tires could help... I've been considering getting some for (next) winter.

I have a FWD 5spd.
...
●● If it doesn't have a clutch, I'm not interested ●● Vive la bote manuelle ●●
silvervoo is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
your comments on pricing for 06 6cyl fwd jsmith Vue General 8 04-30-2006 10:13 PM
Any comments on the FWD CVT eric02SC2 Vue General 25 03-04-2006 08:20 PM
Vue FWD in the snow veggiedogwalker Vue General 28 11-18-2005 06:10 PM
Snow Chains/Cables on a FWD? 3Nailz1Cross Vue General 4 10-21-2004 08:22 PM
How does the FWD V6 Vue handle in the snow? Blue Goose Vue General 7 07-28-2004 10:49 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:59 PM.

Advanced Forum Search | Advanced Photo Search


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SaturnFans.com. The Saturn Enthusiasts Site.