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Old 05-08-2016, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default Ball Joint How To

Hello there!

So I'm pretty sure I diagnosed my new issue as needing a ball joint on the driver front of my '05 Vue 4 cyl with 130k. (Terrible clunking when steering / bumps; and play heard when moving steering wheel in park).

Are there any VIDEOS available for doing a ball joint on this vehicle? Or maybe another vehicle with the same process / components that would get me CLOSE to what I would need to do on this vehicle?

Manual says you need to drill out rivets. What are the function of these rivets? Do you need to replace them with anything after drilling them out?

Some people have said you need to remove whole control arm. Is this necessary? I think you can get some control arms with ball joint in it? Would this be easier for a DIY mechanic with little time to devote to this project?

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Old 05-08-2016, 03:51 PM   #2
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The ball joint replacement isn't bad.. You can do it one of two ways. Replace the whole lower control arm, or just the ball joint. The rivets are holding the ball joint into the lower control arm. If you grind or drill them out you can remove the ball joint from the control arm. It may take a few wacks with a hammer, but it will come out. The rivets are replaced by nuts and bolts that will come with the new ball joint.
Replacing the control arm is a bit more in-depth, but still not that difficult... You would need an alignment afterwards though. It is one bolt on the front of the control arm, two on the back, plus the ball joint crown nut...

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The ball joint replacement isn't bad.. You can do it one of two ways. Replace the whole lower control arm, or just the ball joint. The rivets are holding the ball joint into the lower control arm. If you grind or drill them out you can remove the ball joint from the control arm. It may take a few wacks with a hammer, but it will come out. The rivets are replaced by nuts and bolts that will come with the new ball joint.
Replacing the control arm is a bit more in-depth, but still not that difficult... You would need an alignment afterwards though. It is one bolt on the front of the control arm, two on the back, plus the ball joint crown nut...

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Excellent. So, do you need a special drill for drilling out these rivets? Will my $99 dewalt cordless drill for household projects work here for is that way under powered for it? And do I need special drill bits? I have masonry bits.

Manual states using a picklefork / wedge method .. this is to PRY out the ball joint, right? Another method recommends using a puller.. I'm assuming this is a special tool you get that will pull the ball joint out? Would you recommend using one method over another?

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Regular drill bits capable of drilling steel would work, or a grinder to grind the rivets off flush. A pickle fork to pop the ball joint out of the spindle after you pull the castle nut is needed also... After that you should be able to smack it with a hammer or a mallet to knock it out... Riveted in ball joints are easier to remove than press fit style...

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Exactly, then you knock old BJ out with the remainder of the rivets in it.

If rust is a factor, then a steel drift, centered on the cutoff rivets still stuck in the Aarm ,(and a hammer) is your friend. Or a couple a easy whacks on the old BJ itself, may work.

THe only drilling that may come into play is to size up the holes in the arm for the BJ bolts used.

I did mine after pulling off the Aarms. It's easier to work on, that way.

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Regular drill bits capable of drilling steel would work, or a grinder to grind the rivets off flush. A pickle fork to pop the ball joint out of the spindle after you pull the castle nut is needed also... After that you should be able to smack it with a hammer or a mallet to knock it out... Riveted in ball joints are easier to remove than press fit style...

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Awesome. And BillysVue, I read your follow up to this, and thanks as well. I'll give this a go as soon as I get my car home. I had to leave it at work (35 min drive away...).

I was thinking about trying to drive it home on Friday, but then had a feeling it would snap on the way and cause way more damage. I think I'll probably use my AAA towing to get it home then work on it.

Is there any type of clues as to if the car is driveable on it or not? (i.e., if it's making this noise then don't, or if it feels like THIS then definitely don't...) etc etc? It'd be much easier and less of a hassle to drive it home than get it towed... but along the same lines, I'd rather get home in one piece than have way more damage.

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