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Old 09-06-2011, 09:47 PM   #1
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I have a 01 sc2 and I was thinking of having energy suspension bushing kit installed. Has anyone done this and is it worth doing? if anyone can help that would be great.
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I have a 01 sc2 and I was thinking of having energy suspension bushing kit installed. Has anyone done this and is it worth doing? if anyone can help that would be great.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:56 PM   #3
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Why do you want ES?

Certain ones are good, others there is no reason to replace unless they are bad and some just suck.

Example: the LCA to subframe bushings. The ES ones are historically terrible. On that location the best replacement is the Moog rubber.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:18 AM   #4
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Why do you want ES?

Certain ones are good, others there is no reason to replace unless they are bad and some just suck.

Example: the LCA to subframe bushings. The ES ones are historically terrible. On that location the best replacement is the Moog rubber.
Thanks for clarifying that for me Redhot.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:32 AM   #5
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I replaced all my rubber bushings with the ES bushings on my '92. It was my autox/track car.

Was it worth it? It took me and a friend an entire weekend- lots of fasteners didn't want to come out. I had to replace both rear lateral link to knuckle (upright) bolts. I had burnt rubber stains all over my garage floor and driveway. They were loud and creaky during the winter. And the right sway bar to LCA bushing came apart at an autox. For a street only car- definitely not worth it. For a play car like mine- I would not have done it when I did it (it was one of the first mods to the car).
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:38 PM   #7
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Hi.

I purchased the 'Master Set' of these bushings a while back, gradually putting them in when it makes sense to do so - and I am not using some of the bushings that came in the set( I have the RED ones).

Let me know which ones you are looking for specifically out of the set and I'll let you know if I'm using them.

For example - I just replaced my lower control arms in the front with MOOG. The arms came with rubber bushings in both ends and I decided to not bother putting in the poly bushings, so I have those up for grabs.

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Have run Energy Suspension bushings on my chevelle, old Nova and my old pickup. The Chevelle was rear control arm bushings, and I didn't lube them enough and they squeaked!
The nova was front control arm bushings with a little more lube: better and ALOT more firm, just from those(the old ones were pretty worn though)
The pickup: I put rear control arm bushings in and got smart, I drilled and tapped small holes in the outer metal sleeve to be able to apply more silicone grease, but can't find it in a grease gun tube! The are alot better too!
Want to put them on my SL1...
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Have run Energy Suspension bushings on my chevelle, old Nova and my old pickup. The Chevelle was rear control arm bushings, and I didn't lube them enough and they squeaked!
The nova was front control arm bushings with a little more lube: better and ALOT more firm, just from those(the old ones were pretty worn though)
The pickup: I put rear control arm bushings in and got smart, I drilled and tapped small holes in the outer metal sleeve to be able to apply more silicone grease, but can't find it in a grease gun tube! The are alot better too!
Want to put them on my SL1...
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You should have installed Zerk fittings in the holes you drilled.
You could sub a lithium grease for the silicon.
It would have been cake to squirt lithium in there through the fittings.
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I have them on the SC2's front stabilizer bar mounts to the subframe. The original rubber ones were mushed out and so I thought I'd use the ES bushings (with lube fittings ) as replacements.

Wow, big difference. Worth every penny. Of course the old ones were shot, so anything probably would have made a difference. No squeaks because I lube them at every oil change (synthetic grease only).

On the other hand, on my last truck (K1500 Chevy) I replaced every piece of rubber in the suspension, front and rear, with ES parts. It handled better but there was no practical way to lube most of the bushings, such as on the rear leaf spring shackles. So eventually they started squeaking, especially when the weather was cold and humid. Not so pleasant.

Personally, I would not replace everything in the SC2's suspension with ES parts, just the sway bar mounts (I'll do the rear bar mounts one of these days, and then only with ones equipped with lube fittings).

Just my $0.02 as well. Others I know absolutely swear by them and would install them on their kitchen blenders if ES made something for that purpose.
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Thank you for all the input.
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@ Redhotftw!
I did put zerks in, but still couldn't find the grease, which I believe is dielectric grease. I did get one of those little refillable grease guns with the thumb pump for my chainsaw and impact gun. I'll probably get another one and put the silicone paste in it for the bushings I have yet to buy or install.
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if you get the black bushings, they are graphite impregnated. That means, you won't need to lube them, and are a lot less likely to squeak.
I've had mine in for 3 or 4 years now. I had a set come apart on the LCA's, so I also replaced the LCA's with regular rubber, and kept the poly in the rest of the car.
As for feeling a difference...no, not really. But my rubber components weren't blown out yet.
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