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Old 04-07-2008, 11:16 AM   #1
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Default Q about hydraulic clutch system

I understand the theory... There is a line going from the master cylinder to a weird cylindrical object, then to the slave cylinder- what is the (metal) object and what is its function?

Also, Haynes book describes bleeding the system, but mine has no bleeder screw. I can't imagine that leaving the same fluid in there for years is a good idea!

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Old 04-07-2008, 12:29 PM   #2
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I understand the theory... There is a line going from the master cylinder to a weird cylindrical object, then to the slave cylinder- what is the (metal) object and what is its function?
The "C" shaped metal bracket?

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Also, Haynes book describes bleeding the system, but mine has no bleeder screw. I can't imagine that leaving the same fluid in there for years is a good idea!
Its a closed system and doesnt require bleeding. If any pressure is lost, then replace the whole assembly. You'll do more harm that good trying to bleed it.

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Old 04-07-2008, 12:39 PM   #3
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Default Re: Q about hydraulic clutch system

Clutch hyd fluid is the most "static" fluid system in the car. It never has to absorb heat the way engine oil, tranny fluid or even brake fluid does, it's not constantly pumped, and it doesn't bathe moving parts like gears. So it can remain stable for a very long time.

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Old 04-07-2008, 10:27 PM   #4
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It is a damper.

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Old 04-07-2008, 11:13 PM   #5
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Sorry about the size.

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Second design:

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Old 12-19-2011, 02:43 PM   #6
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Default Re: Q about hydraulic clutch system

will a clutch hydraulic system from a 96 saturn (both s-series) work on a 2000 manual transmission?

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Old 12-19-2011, 03:39 PM   #7
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will a clutch hydraulic system from a 96 saturn (both s-series) work on a 2000 manual transmission?
Better then a 2000-2002 system from most accounts.

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will a clutch hydraulic system from a 96 saturn (both s-series) work on a 2000 manual transmission?
No. They are different.

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No. They are different.
Then what else are people changing to make the earlier style work?

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Then what else are people changing to make the earlier style work?

It would seem that I missed something.


The early style works in the cars that it was designed for and the later style works in the cars that it was designed for. As far as I know the 2000 (?) up ones have the remote reservior and a different throw at the slave than the earlier units. Use the right part in the right year and there should be no problems with anything.

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Old 12-20-2011, 11:35 PM   #11
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Then what else are people changing to make the earlier style work?
You have to change the clutch hydraulics and the clutch kit (pressure plate, friction disc) at the same time. Then it will work. You can't just replace one or the other with second gen parts.

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:16 AM   #12
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Oh, okay then. I've probably been told that before, but it seems to take multiple telling's for it to stay in my head the right way.

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Old 12-22-2011, 04:09 AM   #13
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Default Re: Q about hydraulic clutch system

i have the pressure plate, friction disk, and the hydraulics from the 96. so if i have all of that it should work with 2000 and up?

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The only difference in the hydraulics is the reservoir location. There may be a difference in the slave pushrod length, measure it to find out. The clutch assemblies will swap and function. Flywheels are the same except for the center recess diameter in the 96 and older is slightly smaller diameter and will require chamfering to clear the later clutch disk center.

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