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Old 03-24-2007, 05:17 PM   #1
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Default Spark Plug Firing Order

Hello, i just repleaced the sparkwires and the right coil, but
i was to dump to note which wire belongs to which coil, i have
a 92 saturn sl twincam!!

need car to be fixed within 30 mins

please help me out im desperated

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Old 03-24-2007, 05:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

really urgent, gotta drive to belair in a few minutes

if i stand in front of the car, i would number the parts that was:

zylinders from left to right:

1 2 3 4

coils for sparkwires from left to right

1 2 3 4

but belongs the left cylinder really to the left coil???

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Old 03-24-2007, 05:36 PM   #3
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

Reading the spark plug wells, from left to right, as:

[1]> > > [2]> > > [3] > > > [4]

The respective plugs wire should sit on top of the coils as:

[4]> > > [1]> > > [2] > > > [3]

With the above in mind, the top of the left most coil, should go to plug well [4].

The second from the left coil [2], should go to spark plug well [1]
The third from the left coil [3], should go to spark plug well [2]
the fourth from the left coil [4], should go to spark plug well [3].

There should be a graph on the center of the engine compartment's radiator, just where the hood latches to the center grill area.

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Old 03-24-2007, 05:53 PM   #4
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Reading the spark plug wells, from left to right, as:

[1]> > > [2]> > > [3] > > > [4]

The respective plugs wire should sit on top of the coils as:

[4]> > > [1]> > > [2] > > > [3]

With the above in mind, the top of the left most coil, should go to plug well [4].

The second from the left coil [2], should go to spark plug well [1]
The third from the left coil [3], should go to spark plug well [2]
the fourth from the left coil [4], should go to spark plug well [3].

There should be a graph on the center of the engine compartment's radiator, just where the hood latches to the center grill area.

i dont know much bout that, here is a image for dummies
like me, please let me know if this is right

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Old 03-24-2007, 06:11 PM   #5
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

or is it like this (if i look on my picture)

zylinder 1 goes to coil D
2 to A
3 to B
4 to C

im so confused

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Old 03-24-2007, 06:28 PM   #6
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Like this.................
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:30 PM   #7
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

thanks, i think i got it

lets take my baby for a test ride...hope the engine wont
cut off anymore when i hit the clutch

replaced:

sparkplugs
wires
coils
air temperature sensor
air filter

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Old 03-24-2007, 09:44 PM   #8
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

Um is the firing order different on a win cam because mine looks way different?

Edit: Maybe its not. Damnit I did mine last night and it started up with no problems put it to reverse again no problems. Im assuming it'd fire an SES code if something was out of whack

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Old 03-25-2007, 12:21 AM   #9
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Did you look on the sticker under the hood? 1-2-3-4 go to 4-1-2-3

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Old 03-25-2007, 06:23 AM   #10
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

This is why I'm a firm believer in replacing each wire ONE AT A TIME. So you don't mess it up, like I have a few times.

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Old 03-25-2007, 02:21 PM   #11
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

> Rich <
It goes without saying >>>>>>>> as is always the case, also with others, your picture and addendum [numbering], >>>>> the picture is acceptional as an additional learning tool ..

> Juergen <
And of course, your drawing was correct; But then, by now, you will have discovered that.

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Old 03-25-2007, 02:47 PM   #12
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

hey guys - Can you verify mine is correct.

This is how I have it setup currently

4 Plugs 4 Coil's

From Left to Right 1-2-3-4

Spark Plug 1 is going to Coil Pack 2
Spark Plug 2 is going to Coil Pack 3
Spark Plug 3 is going to Coil Pack 4
Spark Plug 4 is going to Coil Pack 1

I looked at the drawings but if someone can confirm if thats correct or not?

I have a 1995 SL"1"

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Old 03-25-2007, 04:50 PM   #13
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

The image for dummies is correct. That is the plug wire routing for all S-series cars.

Worst comes to worst have a look at the diagram on the crossmember over the rad.

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Old 03-26-2007, 07:10 AM   #14
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The image for dummies is correct. That is the plug wire routing for all S-series cars.

Worst comes to worst have a look at the diagram on the crossmember over the rad.
So what I have above is correct right?

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Old 03-26-2007, 08:29 AM   #15
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So what I have above is correct right?
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:36 AM   #16
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Default Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED!! Spark Wires??

hi, thank you all for your fast help, i was able
to get where i had too

repleacing that and a few other parts gave it
more acceleration, but didnt solve my
big problem with this 92saturn sl twincam

sometimes (every 8-10 time) when i hit the clutch to
stop at the traffic light, the engine cuts off, i turn the
key, and it starts, i drive and a few stops later it cuts off again.

i took it to the saturn dealer a week ago, to make sure that its
not a problem with the engine, i paid 90 usd for the engine
check (service engine light was off at this time), they told me
that the engine is ok, no codes, and that i have to repleace
the spark plugs, wires, coils and air temp. sensor, which i did
on saturday.

after i picked up the car at the saturn dealer, the service
engine light came up the first time, since that i have troubles starting
the car in the morning (turn the key, engine starts, runs for
a few seconds, cuts off, turn it again, runs cuts off, after 3-4 times it
keeps runs at 1500rpm, which should be fine), once the engine is warm, the rpm is going up and down between 800-2500 when i put the car in neutral. both
problems came up first after the engine check.

after repleacing all that stuff, its the same problem, and
also the service engine light is on (which first appeared after
the engine check at the dealer)

if the car breaks down im in serious troubles, because
i cant get to work without it!!!

have you ever heard about similar problems with that car?

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Sounds kind of like a CPS (Crankshaft Position Sensor) and kind of like an ECTS (Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor). I'd lean towards the ECTS but, many parts stores will read the codes for free. Get the codes read and come back here and post the code NUMBERS. Don't post what the guy at the parts store says it means.

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Old 03-26-2007, 01:23 PM   #18
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is it a big deal to change the coolent sensor, i never did that
and i dont really know where this sensor is located, is it on the
radiator??

i think that they turned on the check engine light at the dealer,
because it wasnt on till i left their store, i had no code on the engine
when they run the engine check

if the problem is the sensor, and i change it, will the light disappear
or do the have to fix it in the shop? maybe i can reset it by disconnecting
the battery?

i dont want to pay much more on that, its enough for this month

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Maybe we should make a sticky on spark plugs, wires, and coils, just so it'll be easier for those who go about doing the usual maintenance.

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Sounds kind of like a CPS (Crankshaft Position Sensor) and kind of like an ECTS (Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor). I'd lean towards the ECTS but, many parts stores will read the codes for free. Get the codes read and come back here and post the code NUMBERS. Don't post what the guy at the parts store says it means.
ps: if the engine coolent sensor is located next to
the airfilter, then i allready changed it!!

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