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Old 05-10-2009, 03:41 PM   #1
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Mad 1998 manual transmission problems

Hi I have a 1998 Saturn SL1 manual transmision. The problem started the other day with high rev's I cleaned the TPS and it solved the problem for a bit. However today driving it I have no reverse, no 2nd gear and no 4th. I'm really hoping its not the transmission. Any suggestions on what to check. There are no leaks and the tranny fluids were just changed out. We just recently put in a new engine and the car has been driving just dandy
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Check the cables. Make sure they are secure and attached.

Check the fluid level.
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Old 05-10-2009, 04:06 PM   #3
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sorry to sound like a tard...but what cables and where?
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sorry to sound like a tard...but what cables and where?
The shifter cables.. Your gearshift is not directly connected to the trans. It uses cables. The cable connections underneath the hood can be found underneath the ducting for the air intake, behind the airbox and battery. The fluid dipstick is also right there, down low, with a red handle.
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It sounds like the housing clip for teh lower cable has come off. This is what it is supposed to look like. The big clip is a dealer only part.

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It turns out one of the push rods that go into the housing clip is out. So that being said what do I have to do or buy to fix this problem?
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Iíve been replacing components.
Per the Factory Service Manual, they are named:

1. Shift/Selector Cable
2. Shifter Control Assembly (between the seats)
3. Shift Control Housing (on top of the transmission-)
4. Clutch Pedal (bushing worn and one was missing! Don't know how that happened!)

I replaced them one at a time and drove for a while. Each time, shifting noticeably improved.
You donít realize how sloppy everything is until you replace it.

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Can you describe which part is not OK? The "U" shaped clip holds teh outer part of the shift cable in place on the transmission housing and the actual inner cable is held on the shift levers with the small clip. And you are describing the condition of the cables out at the transmission, right?



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Finally saw your viscosity lab experiment. Definitely shows that Mobil-1 has a problem with the cold pour point viscosity stability.
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The rubber moulding that fits into the clip from the wire has come out. The rubber is still connected and it looks like it just needs to be reconnected. Hopefully
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Is there any chance you could get a photo of what you are describing? It would do wonders here.

If you do not have 15 posts the forum software will not let you post it here. If that is a problem just get a photo and there are alternate solutions.
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Finally saw your viscosity lab experiment. Definitely shows that Mobil-1 has a problem with the cold pour point viscosity stability.

I haven't put it in yet. I will soon.
Replacing all the components REALLY improved shifting.
The Amsoil will hopefully be the end of trans issues for me.
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The new parts should help a bunch. If the tower ball is worn out then it really makes shifting sloppy.
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The new parts should help a bunch. If the tower ball is worn out then it really makes shifting sloppy.
Yes. And they are not that expensive compared to the cable.
Shift now feels like the stick goes directly into the trans and not thru a cable.
It's like time-travel back to that New Car Feel
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