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Old 07-01-2018, 09:44 PM   #121
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Default Re: 98 SC2 project. Drive for now, maybe rebuild later.

I put them in my doors, opening down, and I also grab them at Junkyards for the rear deck, I point them towards the front of the car. They are a tight fit on the speakers I used, and seem to stop rattles.

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Old 07-26-2018, 08:20 PM   #122
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A '99 red SC1 showed up at the local LKQ today. I am tempted to get some body parts. Maybe that is crazy for a $500 car. What fits between the '99 3 door and the '98 2 door? All my front underneath plastic is busted up. My right side headlight fogs up and my left rear tail light had redneck wiring done on it.

I have been researching bearing noises on SaturnFans. I think my right front wheel bearing is bad. Around gentle corners at speed I hear a beat frequency. Sharp left corners sound bad.

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Old 07-26-2018, 10:34 PM   #123
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Front end is the same. Right quarter, rear bumper cover, and trunk lid are the same.

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Old 08-05-2018, 09:45 PM   #124
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Today I put oil in the car for the first time since the last oil change. I am a 3000 mile OCI guy. Only another 400 miles to the next oil change and I was up 4 diamonds from the bottom.

Also I changed my throttle position sensor. My new idle is consistently 1130 and I wonder if a prior owner messed with the idle screw. I did remove and clean the throttle body, the little vacuum ports were pretty gunked up.

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:46 PM   #125
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Take the air inlet off and block the air inlet port in front of the throttle plate with your finger. RPM should decrease to somewhere between stall and 550RPM. Engine coolant should be warmed up to normal on the gauge. Throttle body will be hot so wear a leather glove. IAC will go full open so when removing finger go slow.

The high idle could be a failed ECTS circuit if it has a high resistance splice in the wiring.

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Old 08-06-2018, 07:45 AM   #126
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ECTS circuit is definitely suspect. Gauge was stuck on cold for most of the drive, then came up to a little under 1/4. At one light went a little over 1/4 and idle was 900.

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Old 08-06-2018, 09:21 AM   #127
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The usual hidden fault is a crimp connector in the wiring between the ECTS and the main harness, about 15" of wire to check. Any crimps/splices must be soldered as this is a microamp circuit.

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Old 08-06-2018, 10:54 PM   #128
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A couple of Rock Auto orders ago, I bought an Airtex/Wells ECTS connector.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...connector,2564

When I tried to pull the connector off, a wire came out.


The wire looked like this:


When I solder wires I like to bend one set back on itself, so the unsoldered wire supports the joint.


Here is shrink tubing over the joints:


And a bigger piece of shrink tube over the whole thing.


Now my coolant temperature is a bit above 1/4, a little higher than I have ever seen it. Idle is steady at 900. I'm declaring victory!
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:59 PM   #129
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Yep -- Fixed. The general consensus here is that an Airtex, or Wells, or AirTex-Wells anything is instant junk.

Best source for good connectors is to go pull the IAT connector out of a dead Saturn. The heat eventually kills them.

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Old 08-07-2018, 07:30 AM   #130
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Default Re: 98 SC2 project. Drive for now, maybe rebuild later.

Mine wasn't instant junk yet, but we will see. I'll pick up an IAT connector or two next time at the yard. Here is my new temperature and idle:
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Old 08-20-2018, 06:30 PM   #131
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So, after the new ECTS connector, I pulled down 34.3 MPG. No highway, mixed rural and in-town driving with traffic lights and stop signs. Plus, two lessons for the new driver.

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Old 08-20-2018, 08:52 PM   #132
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Looks good and the mileage does indicate fixed.

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Old 08-26-2018, 05:45 PM   #133
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Went to LKQ, got a headlight and passed on a front bumper cover. The plastic underneath was almost as destroyed as mine. The red part was better but not great. We were there mainly for Subaru parts as a family friend had their Subaru Outback driveshaft come apart in a spectacular manner.

That third door is nice. Wish I had a '99.
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Old 09-01-2018, 06:49 PM   #134
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My haul from LKQ today. The cam cover says "Twin Cam 16V Saturn" on it. Should have flipped it around for the picture. The seatbelt will go in sometime, the IAT connector is for the '99, and the valve cover is for a rebuild someday. The plastic cover seems to be doing fine since I changed the gasket.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:01 PM   #135
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I had the day off. Pretty unproductive. Tried to polish out the window scratches. No joy. Tried to swap my JY passenger seat belt in. It was stuck retracted, I tried to fix and it exploded.


I did manage to fix the passenger side door switch while I had the seatbelt reel out. Then I tackled the visor. Here are the guts:


Here there is contact cement on my leftover headliner fabric and the visor cardboard.


Here it is installed. Still a little sticky on the edges.


Not perfect, but this was quick and no longer is it falling apart and raining brown stuff on the passenger.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:43 PM   #136
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The visor looks good.
I picked up one at the JY I need to rebuild it like you did.

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Old 10-09-2018, 12:11 PM   #137
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I have been giving lessons in the SC2 to my younger son. He likes the automatic better but he is doing well with the manual. Yesterday we had a big milestone on his hovercraft project. Our next project is to rebuild the junkyard transmission. We will be doing the differential pin mod and inspecting the friction cones.

Here is the hovercraft first flight video, has both Saturns in it as well.
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:45 PM   #138
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Awesome hovercraft.

Pretty soon I will be giving my youngest son driving lessons.

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That looks like way too much fun ...

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