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Old 06-09-2003, 10:11 AM   #1
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Default 1995 SL1 w/ Bad Motor in Northern IL

1995 Saturn SL1 4-door
5 speed w/BRAND NEW clutch (<2000 miles on it - have receipts)
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Dark Blue in color
117,XXX miles
EXTREMELY CLEAN LITTLE CAR!!!

motor just locked up on June 5th. Car hasn't been sitting long.

$1200 obo?

let me know if you're interested!!!

Car is located in Dixon, IL

thanks!

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Old 06-16-2003, 03:44 PM   #2
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Still for sale. anyone for $1000? it's really a superb car, aside for the motor.
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I think $1k for it were it running would be a bit closer. I could be wrong of course, but I don't see anyone wanting to get involved with an SL1 that needs a motor for $1k. If you look around you can find a comperable running satty for that price, maybe even a sx2...
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Well, let's work the numbers the other way...

The labor/parts to swap an engine is around $750 at my retailer, not including the engine. You should be able to find someone who would do it for less.

Decent used engines can be found, but I don't know what they'd set you back. Let's SWAG $300.

So, you have to invest $500 to $1000 to get a car that you can reasonably sell.

Note you should work your own numbers.

Now, check your Blue book or Kelley or whatever to get an idea of what the vehicle is worth.

If you want to sell it without fixing it, take the wholesale, minus the cost to fix it (probably the $1000) and that will give you a pretty good shot at what it's worth.

It also will likely take a lot longer to sell since the number of potential people who could fix it is smaller than those looking for a used, running car.

Good luck.
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Are you willing to part it out?
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Old 06-16-2003, 10:36 PM   #6
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On one of the threads, I think it was the 100,000 mile thread, somebody had a 95 SL1 that had been rear-ended and totalled out.

There's an engine for ya - if you two are relatively close to each other.
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ok, here's a question...

you know that it's a '95 SL1 with the SOHC motor. if i get a SOHC motor from a newer saturn, am i going to have problems hooking it up? i can put the motor in, that's no problem. i've already had it out once to put the clutch in, so taking it out again won't be too difficult.

but will a newer motor work? will the electrical connections all match up? is everything in the same place? (alternator, A/C compresser, PS compressor, MOTOR MOUNTS, coolant hookups, etc?)

or will i have to get a motor from a '95 SL1 with the same VIN code?

one more: if the newer motor will work, then what's with the different VIN codes for the different motors?

if you're wondering why i'm trying to sell it, if i'm capable of doing the motor myself, i just didn't feel like working on it again (nor do i have the time really), so i thought i'd see if anyone out there had a good motor, and was looking for a good car to put it in. guess there's not. so, i may just wind up putting a motor in.

well, any help with any of those questions will be GREATLY appreciated. thanks!
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Yes - if you go with a newer engine than your 95, you'll run into different electronics. The 95's were ODBI and the 96's and on are OBDII.

Also try not to replace you single cam engine with a dual cam.

There are some folks on the board that can tell you how to use a newer engine and what has to be changed to make it work. Ditto for the twin cam. The catch is that changing the model year or the single to twin cam makes things more difficult/complicated and more expensive - which you don't really need on a car of this value.

Good luck.
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