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Old 09-07-2014, 08:26 PM   #1
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All right chaps, my last saturn just left my dooryard.

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2002-2004, 96 SL1, wife's car. Replaced with:
2004-2013, 00 SL1, wife's car, because it had A/C. Replaced with
2007 Chevy HHR (sad trombone).

In 2003 I picked up a 95 SW1 with 142k miles and drove it until last week when it had 241k miles. Transmission lost its last spec of synchro, so I put it down by the road with a for sale sign and someone bought it within a couple hours. My depreciation was approx $27 a year. Seriously.

Replaced with a 2005 neon.

Lest I commit some cardinal forum sin yakking about other makes, let me just gush about this stupid mopar for a minute:

-- It takes my stash of 175/70/14 tires, albeit on 5 lug rims.
-- It takes autolite 3923 plugs, the same form factor as s-series but maybe a colder heat range
-- It takes the 3614 size oil filter, and probably the 3600 if I don't mind it hanging down kinda low.

It's a penalty box, for sure. No tach. No inside trunk release. Freakish HVAC controls engineered to trick you into using AC no matter what.

I'm bummed it's not a wagon-- was trying to figure the HHR was a substitute but the cute ute seems to have blobs of plastic in the way-back that cramp luggage space to force the buyer into the next size up-- equinox or ??? Feh.

Cars these days. Hard to like 'em.

Tuned the neon up with a timing belt and plugs. Having done (many) s-series timing chains in the car, a neon timing belt is no biggie. Yeah, I try to shop for belt-less cars but will take what comes down the pike.

I'll still "flip" saturns when I find 'em. Just did one where the only real problem was the exhaust midpipe falling off the flange-- welded that up in my office parking lot after hours with a harbor freight 110V flux wire welder, sawzall, and short bit of tubing.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:41 PM   #2
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Congrats on the new to you ride. I too will be leaving the Saturn world shortly as I've picked up a 2007 Focus wagon 5spd recently that will start pulling daily duty once I sell the Satty.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:48 PM   #3
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Yeah a focus wagon was on my short list, though I drove a dreadful focus with 75k that felt like 300k.

Co-irker has a dodge caliber that is basically an omni with 17" tires. It's not a wagon, not a hatchback, and not all that useful.
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Old 09-07-2014, 09:36 PM   #4
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I upgraded to a '02 Outback back in February and more recently a '03 Impreza. Not only do they put ease of working on and "lego" idea's we valued in the S-Series to shame but they have everything from luxury ride upgrades to full-on race/rally upgrades...most available from the dealer and the rest aftermarket
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:56 AM   #5
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Did I mention that neons come with really squishy rubbery engine mounts? Sound like any car you know?
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:27 AM   #6
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Neon and saturn oil filters are the same. The "srt4" filter is larger, and is the one I use.

They did change to the shorter filter due to ground clearance issues, I guess people managed to rip the filter off since it hangs down so low

The clusters are an easy swap too, and adding a tach is just a matter of swapping the right cluster in.

As for motor mounts... at least they have some semblence of an aftermarket.... lol
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I had to replace a starter and alternator on a Neon. Biggest pain in the ass ever.

There's a reason it's called PITAPOS. Pain in the A** Piece of S***. BUT the thing just won't die: It's done 1000 laps of enduro and still runs like new.

Keep an eye on the rust, especially the rockers.
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Never drove a Neon, though I always liked the early ones. Had a Breeze for a year or two, was pretty nice... thought about checking into swapping a 5 spd manual from a Neon, but it seemed like a lot of work

Would have bought a Neon when I ended up with the Saturn, but could not find one in reasonable shape for a reasonable price
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Co-irker has a dodge caliber that is basically an omni with 17" tires. It's not a wagon, not a hatchback, and not all that useful.
My Horizon was a hatchback, and very useful. IIRC, was a 4 spd manual but hit 40mpg. Sold it to a friend's brother who needed a car for organ delivery, and I replaced it with a Turismo since I liked the Horizon well enough. I looked at the Shadow when it came time to replace, was so unimpressed with the mpg that I kept looking. Ditto when I had to fly out to CA, looked at possibly renting a Caliber. Pretty crappy mpg for a small car.
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Keep an eye on the rust, especially the rockers.
Someone ahead of me already riveted aluminum roof flashing all over them. Did a bang up job too, but I'm going to drill them out and weld real prefabricated ones in.

The SW1 was just losing its door sills to rust when I dumped it. Also the headliner was held up with thumbtacks, two door handles didn't spring "latched", my "Big Lots" RTV on the timing cover was leaking oil like a seive, it had three different size tires. (195/60/15, 185/65/15, and 185/70/14 ) The driver's window was off its track, but could be helped back home. The rear wiper had no spring to it. The exhaust was a series of botched ghetto riggings... including buying a flexpipe then needing a cat 6 months later. Would have preferred buying the whole thing at once. The drivers seat was a different color (from a SL2, cushy) and the cruise was stolen from another saturn, and installed craftily with a utility knife cutting up the steering wheel. The radio switched to preset 3 when I took off rapidly.

But the AC still worked. Yeah I'm gonna miss it.
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Co-irker has a dodge caliber that is basically an omni with 17" tires. It's not a wagon, not a hatchback, and not all that useful.
But a Neon is basically an Omni with, what, 14" tires and NO way-back. And serious headlight glaucoma (at least I haven't seen a Neon with non-cloudy headlights in years). Seems to me a Caliber would be a major step up from a Neon (unless you got the Neon in trade for, say, an old Sandisk MP3 player).
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All right chaps, my last saturn just left my dooryard.
Dooryard - Haha (..takes a sip of pop).
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You sir are the MCGuiver of automobile repair. You will be missed....

My boss had a first generation Neon. It lost much of its paint and was down to primer and rust.
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You sir are the MCGuiver of automobile repair. You will be missed....

My boss had a first generation Neon. It lost much of its paint and was down to primer and rust.
Awww you flatter me. Was that neon primer purple by chance?

It's not macgyver mechanicing if it's not caught on video.

I have the harbor freight tire machine but dang it sometimes the beads just don't seat without help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wsy...UYqrWrmuPp_l0w
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White Neon. Primer was greyish if my memory serves me correctly...
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