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Old 01-22-2009, 06:19 PM   #1
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Default Ion sedan turbo?

Can you put a turbo into the saturn ion sedan? i have an 03 ion 2.2 non turbo and i want to turbo it. i have no idea where to look for one or anything. also i have a cold air intake on it and i am trying to find anything i can do to add power. if anyone has any ideas please let me know. I also am thinking about nitrous such as a 50-75 shot but im not sure how much that helps in hp gain. Any help is great Thank you.

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Old 01-22-2009, 06:26 PM   #2
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whatever you do, I recommend you put pods and pistons in. from there you need to find a shop that can dyno tune a 2.2 from 2003, though you are limited how much you can boost it by your ECM (and no, you can't switch it out). also, there are no kits, so you'd be making your own setup.

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:25 PM   #3
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go to a chevy or pontiac dealer and ask for a gm performance catalog and/or the ecotec cookbook. here's a link http://media.gm.com/division/gmracin...ingecotec.html
it shows the parts needed to build something like 300 to 650 hp from an ecotec. see if you can find a 2.0L supercharged ecotec from a wreaked ion red line and put that in your ion sedan as a starting point

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Old 01-23-2009, 12:54 AM   #4
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you still need a tuner before you put the SC or turbo on it. it gives you ideas, not actual P/Ns, at least the one I looked at didn't.

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Old 01-23-2009, 04:57 AM   #5
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best route would be nitrous + full boltons.. there is no ecm tuning avalable for the year your ion was made. so the only reliable way would be nitrous..

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Old 01-23-2009, 08:11 AM   #6
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there's no wide tuning support, but some shops can dyno tune them

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Old 01-23-2009, 09:17 AM   #7
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...you are limited how much you can boost it by your ECM...
??? how do u figure this?
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there's no wide tuning support, but some shops can dyno tune them
oh? do tell how that's possible w/o a standalone

OP, head over to ionforums.net and do some searching. there are plenty of n2o installs doc'd there as well as some supercharger and turbo ones. enjoy. and as far as how much hp a 50-75 shot of n2o will give you, the answer is 50-75hp - that's how the "shots" of n2o get their names.......

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Old 01-23-2009, 10:48 AM   #8
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I've talked to someone who has dyno tuned them and they said because the old ECUs are slower, they can't keep up with a lot of boost. some shops have figured out how to tune these ECUs, but no one has a tuner for them yet.

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Old 01-23-2009, 03:53 PM   #9
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I've talked to someone who has dyno tuned them and they said because the old ECUs are slower, they can't keep up with a lot of boost. some shops have figured out how to tune these ECUs, but no one has a tuner for them yet.
id honestly like to know where your getting your information from... because i dont believe any of it.. the only tuneable ecm years are the 05-07...

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id honestly like to know where your getting your information from... because i dont believe any of it.. the only tuneable ecm years are the 05-07...
ditto. because they're slower??? please.

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Old 01-23-2009, 08:53 PM   #11
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Default Re: Ion sedan turbo?

I was looking and i found a "super turbo" for the 03 ion but im not sure how smart getting that for it would be. any ideas? and also would it just be better to sell this car. cut my losses and go for an 05+ ion RL? and if i didnt where could i get the nos at?

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also how can i get rid of the dang gov on it... it cuts out just around 107-108 mph

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Old 01-24-2009, 11:43 AM   #13
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the 2003 compared to the 2005 ECU operates at a slower bit rate, it reads the info from the engine with less samples per minute than the newer ECU, in 2007 they upgraded to a 58x crankshaft position sensing and a 32-bit computer, making it even faster.

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Old 01-26-2009, 12:26 PM   #14
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so there is no way to get rid of the gov on it?

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I can't tell you how to change the speed control, but I can tell you why they set it.
The speed is controlled to match the tire rating of the stock tires.
One of the ways tires are rated is the top speed they are made to handle. For liability reasons, they control the top speed of the car so as to not exceed the speed which the tires can handle.
So, if you DO spend the money to upgrade your engine, you'll probably also need to upgrade your rubber.

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Old 01-26-2009, 01:42 PM   #16
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kk thanks i have upgraded my tires too lol i have hancook (sp?) lol i just want to remove the speed limitor cuz ill be racing someone hit 108 and slow back down... 108 on my car is around 4000 rpms in 5th so there is still a ways it can go... and i get passed at 108 by cars that dont have a top limitor... its sad

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the governor, rev limiter, PE mode, the slow revving nature of the engine (not up, but down) these are all things solved by tuning.

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so where again can i get my car tuned?

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from there you need to find a shop that can dyno tune a 2.2 from 2003
and I meant rods, not pods.

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where would you look for a wrecked redline to take the 2.0 out?

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