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Old 12-27-2007, 11:03 AM   #1
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Attention SL2 Tranny issue-any ideas?

I have posted on this before but I am considering taking it in to my tranny guy and I was hoping I could get some of the valuable expert advice alot of you guys have. I want to have some stuff to tell my tranny guy so he doesnt think he can bend me over...He is generally honest but times are tough and I dont want him to milk me cuz business sux. so here it is. 99 sl2 no trac-control or anything like that. The car pulls in every gear (it never does the slip-rev thing) when it shifts into second gear it is pulling (feels solid-like its in gear) then about half way through the gear (half throttle or so) it actually "drops" into the gear. Sometimes it will drop into gear just before the next shift. If I have the throttle mashed it seems to shift real solid. This seems to be more prominant when the engine/tranny are warm.
So- does this sound like something that a flush, filter, & fill could cure? Has anyone here experienced this before? What can be done for it besides replacing or rebuilding at this time? I hope You all have some tricks or ideas that can help my struggling Saturn...Money is tight these days I would hate to have to dump the saturn cuz it runs perfect now and looks good too.

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Old 12-27-2007, 12:10 PM   #2
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Default Re: SL2 Tranny issue-any ideas?

Our transmissions, from my very limited knowledge of automatics, are a hybrid of electronically controlled solenoids performing the hydraulic valve shifts, leaving the clutch packs/torque converter to transfer power to the wheels. The valve body seems to be one of the main components along with the bus connection external to the transmission. If you research the threads covering automatics, there's a consistent theme with valve body replacement and/or keeping the electrical bus connection clean. The other separate problem seems to be related to one shift and that may have to do with one solenoid failing, each shift using its own solenoid. The rest of the mechanicals seems to be trouble-free. Just my 2-cents.

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Old 12-27-2007, 01:20 PM   #3
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It sounds to me like maybe mac99sl2 is just describing the torque converter locking up. I noticed my wife's SL1 auto transmission seems to lock up in 2nd gear, as opposed to our Escort whose converter locked up in 4th. It pulls and revs normally, but you can hear the RPMs drop a bit as it locks up.

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Old 12-27-2007, 04:11 PM   #4
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Confirm ; T C C lock up in second gear

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Old 12-27-2007, 08:13 PM   #5
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Default Re: SL2 Tranny issue-any ideas?

so do y'all think this is something that can be remedied by having it flushed filled and cleaning contacts? Do you think the TTS could have something to do with this? It seems to "act up" more when after driving for 10 minutes-when the tranny is warm-hot.

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Old 12-28-2007, 07:03 AM   #6
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so do y'all think this is something that can be remedied by having it flushed filled and cleaning contacts? Do you think the TTS could have something to do with this? It seems to "act up" more when after driving for 10 minutes-when the tranny is warm-hot.
I think it's normal behavior and no "fix" is needed. Modern automatic transmissions have a clutch that locks the torque converter so there is no slip while cruising, which helps fuel economy. Most lock up in 4th gear, but ours lock in 2nd, which helps fuel economy a little more. The torque converter won't usually lock until the car is warm anyway.

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Old 12-28-2007, 07:35 AM   #7
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If its normal its irritating.. My last vehicle was a '96 chevy s-10 (4.3L vortec with 4spd auto trans) I loved that truck but it shifted real solid and no weird tranny lock stuff. Maybe it need the flush because it feels like the downshifts are slow and lazy at normal driving...if I punch it it kicks down a gear a goes. If I come up on a hill and its in 4th-Ill give it some gas Ill hear the rpms go up and it seems like it takes twice as long as any other automatic that I drive to downshift. ( I drive company vehicles all the time and the tranny on ma Saturn just doesnt seem to be acting right)

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Old 12-28-2007, 10:41 AM   #8
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Please don't get a flush. It stirs up junk in the transmission and that junk can cause things like buzzing solenoids. Just drain, replace the filter and refill. It's worth a try.

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