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Old 01-28-2006, 11:04 AM   #21
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i dont know about the ION being phased out but the latest information i have from my grandfather that works at GM is that the ION is moving to GM Lordstown, down here in Ohio. That isnt final yet but that is the word.
The Ion is on the same platform as the Cobolt that is now made at Loadstown, so that would be a logical move.

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Old 01-28-2006, 05:50 PM   #22
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Lets just say I'm Much CLOSER to the situation than ANY of you are.

And as I said the future is very bright in Spring Hill.
What, you live in Spring Hill or something? I wonder how much you know when you don't even know what the SCAC is.

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Old 01-28-2006, 06:20 PM   #23
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Itís true, some employees at SH should be worried about their future, those for the most part are the area hires that have less than 15 years seniority.
GM or Saturn senority? Saturn mostly goes by Saturn senority for jobs witihin the plant. If that's the case it will be affecting a good number of people, probably 45% at least.


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Now as a plant SH has many advantages over most other GM plants. One being itís size and flexibility; it has a power train and stamping plant on site as well as a foundry, and a SSPO plant. The plant has a good tax structure and very few environmental problems. These are all great benefits SH has that most GM plants donít.
Oh wow, and how many people out of Saturns 6,000 people of so work in powertrain and in the SSPO? Good tax structure? Did you happen to read the Daily Herald the other day? Look what Mike Bennet had to say, I don't care for the guy much at all but he does have a good point on some issues.
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/a.../01bennett.txt

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Old 01-28-2006, 06:53 PM   #24
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Folks...as Red has said...

Don't worry about us down here in Spring Hill. Yes the Ion line will be shutting down. But when it does the contractors will come streaming into the plant and start the rebuilding process in that area.

We do have a future in Spring Hill...and most all employees will have that future. As there are many that will be able to retire about the time we do the complete shutdown to finish the retooling of the plant.

It may be tight on the financial front for a little bit for us down here, but at least we do have a future. Which is better than the rest of the plants that were in that announcement.

Oh, and red..don't worry about letting folks know that you work there, or a family member works in the plant. As long as you don't let out sensitive information, everything is ok. I've been posting here for a while and have never gotten any questions from folks in the plant. It's ok for those of us that work there to participate here....and at times we can put to rest rumors that come up thanks to the press.

Especially this rumor...Spring Hill will survive, what we will be building on the other hand only Detroit knows for now....my hope is for a totally new product.

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Old 01-28-2006, 07:27 PM   #25
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you don't even know what the SCAC is.

I'm just never heard of SCAC. That's all

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Old 01-28-2006, 07:33 PM   #26
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GM or Saturn senority? Saturn mostly goes by Saturn senority for jobs witihin the plant. If that's the case it will be affecting a good number of people, probably 45% at least.



Oh wow, and how many people out of Saturns 6,000 people of so work in powertrain and in the SSPO? Good tax structure? Did you happen to read the Daily Herald the other day? Look what Mike Bennet had to say, I don't care for the guy much at all but he does have a good point on some issues.
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/a.../01bennett.txt
Ya, Maury County had had those issues for awhile now, but if it wasn't for GM Spring Hill would still be a cow pasture.

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Old 01-28-2006, 07:34 PM   #27
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I'm just never heard of SCAC. That's all
With all the accronyms down here that doesn't suprise me. We have two to three pages of accronyms that are used in Spring Hill. I have no idea on what a lot of them are.

Most of the time when the SCAC is mentioned in The Newsline (inplant newsletter) they are refered to just as Customer Assistance...that's it..Not the Saturn Customer Assistance Center...so most in the plant don't know what they are called outside the plant. If it wouldn't have been for this board...I would not have known myself.

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Old 01-28-2006, 08:26 PM   #28
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I just never heard it called that before.

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Old 01-28-2006, 10:56 PM   #29
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I have no idea what they will build after the last ION rolls off the line, and the girl at the SCAC probably was just repeating a rumor. I just want to thank everyone building the ION's for a job well done. In a few more months I will have a quarter of a million miles on mine and it is still going strong.

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Old 01-28-2006, 11:25 PM   #30
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What, you live in Spring Hill or something? .
My ZIP CODE is 37174

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Yes, with all that said SH does have a bright future, will it again be building Saturns???? Only if a Saturn product is part of the platform SH builds, Will it have plastic panels, NO.
Will it support all the employees receiving a pay check from their today, NO . But will it continue to be building a GM product and employing thousands of people, Yes.
With that the future is bright.
Sounds like you have tweaked the gamma settings on your rose-colored glasses. It's all relative.

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:39 PM   #32
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Sounds like you have tweaked the gamma settings on your rose-colored glasses. It's all relative.

Rose-colored??? No way.

Many there will be hurt and have their live changed by what will happen there in the next year, but long contrary to some of the experts here the plant will remain open and produce vehicles.

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:46 PM   #33
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Sounds like you have tweaked the gamma settings on your rose-colored glasses. It's all relative.

Not really...the plant will still be running. We will continue to build GM products. It is just that instead of the nearly 10,000 we employed in 1993. We will only have about 4500 workers here (mangement included) by 2008.

At least we will still have jobs and a future. Better than several other GM plants.

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Old 01-30-2006, 01:14 PM   #34
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My ZIP CODE is 37174
That's good to know. Mine is 48186 even though it used to be 37405.

My dad has an old friend who went to Saturn back when it first started up. My dad considered it at the time, but had 3 kids in high school or younger and we basically vetoed him.

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Folks...as Red has said...

Don't worry about us down here in Spring Hill. Yes the Ion line will be shutting down. But when it does the contractors will come streaming into the plant and start the rebuilding process in that area.

We do have a future in Spring Hill...and most all employees will have that future. As there are many that will be able to retire about the time we do the complete shutdown to finish the retooling of the plant.

It may be tight on the financial front for a little bit for us down here, but at least we do have a future. Which is better than the rest of the plants that were in that announcement.

Oh, and red..don't worry about letting folks know that you work there, or a family member works in the plant. As long as you don't let out sensitive information, everything is ok. I've been posting here for a while and have never gotten any questions from folks in the plant. It's ok for those of us that work there to participate here....and at times we can put to rest rumors that come up thanks to the press.

Especially this rumor...Spring Hill will survive, what we will be building on the other hand only Detroit knows for now....my hope is for a totally new product.
Thank you once again, Seamus, for giving us a view from the factory floor.
While driving into work the other day I realized what a bloody trip it was to be able to communicate with someone who worked on BOTH my cars.And a part of automotive history similar to that of the pioneer days of the industry. THAT's something to be proud of.
And Motor Trend stopped being relevant or a reliable source of information the minute Autoweek magazine exposed them for giving their Car Of The Year award to the company who offered to buy the most pages of advertising and offered the most perks to the editors. The slide downhill started before that but things didn't improve any when Automobile Magazine's publishers [Primemedia I think] took it over. So pay Motor Trend no mind. They're a joke, and I was a reader and subscriber for many many years. Not any longer. They really are just a slight cut above MPH [the only car magazine I have actually thrown in the garbage rather than keeping it for future reference]. Rags, both.

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Thank you once again, Seamus, for giving us a view from the factory floor.
While driving into work the other day I realized what a bloody trip it was to be able to communicate with someone who worked on BOTH my cars.And a part of automotive history similar to that of the pioneer days of the industry. THAT's something to be proud of.
And Motor Trend stopped being relevant or a reliable source of information the minute Autoweek magazine exposed them for giving their Car Of The Year award to the company who offered to buy the most pages of advertising and offered the most perks to the editors. The slide downhill started before that but things didn't improve any when Automobile Magazine's publishers [Primemedia I think] took it over. So pay Motor Trend no mind. They're a joke, and I was a reader and subscriber for many many years. Not any longer. They really are just a slight cut above MPH [the only car magazine I have actually thrown in the garbage rather than keeping it for future reference]. Rags, both.
You make some great points, right on the money.

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I went through a continuous blood letting when I was at MCI/Worldcom. My department went from 100, down to 3 when I was finally laid off. While all that was going on the morale went down along with it. The guys left behind always wonder if they are going to be zapped in the next round of layoffs.

Yes, it's nice that they still have a job, but IMHO, the people still employed will be on edge and probably not happy.

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