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Old 11-06-2017, 11:36 AM   #1
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Default catalytic converter for standard transmission

Have a 06 Ion 2 w/2.2 engine w/standard trans. My flex pipe is leaking so I am looking into having the whole cat pipe replaced. Problem is any aftemarket I find online for a reasonable price is listed for an automatic transmission and I have standard. OEMs are 3-4 times the price. Is there really a difference. I don't live in CA so there is not an emisssions concern.

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Are you aware that the flex pipe can be replaced separately? You can buy a decent quality replacement flexpipe for under $50 from eBay or Amazon. An exhaust shop will need to cut the old one off and weld the new part on.

I wouldn't replace the cat con unless you have more than 200K miles on the car. Even then, I'd probably let it ride unless you know it's clogged.

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Did you search extensively online (rockauto, summit racing, magna flow, etc)? If GM made a car, discontinued or not, parts are available. Discontinued models requires manufacturers to have parts for at least ten years. You may not have searched enough but if you still cannot find any aftermarket exhaust system parts and don't want to buy OEM then you'll have to resort to custom making replacement parts from pieces to mate. This can be either welded by a muffler shop or specialty welders or bolted together. Your choice. Other members may have suggestions too. And there's always a non cat setup if your state doesn't require emissions inspections. The only problem with bypassing the catcon is the second O2 sensor needs to see exhaust to measure catcon efficiency in a system missing its catcon. This will generate an error code. At the least, a straight pipe will need a bung hole to mount the downstream sensor.

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Are you aware that the flex pipe can be replaced separately? You can buy a decent quality replacement flexpipe for under $50 from eBay or Amazon. An exhaust shop will need to cut the old one off and weld the new part on.

I wouldn't replace the cat con unless you have more than 200K miles on the car. Even then, I'd probably let it ride unless you know it's clogged.
Thanks for reply - This may be the way I go even though I just turned over the 200k mark. This is the first car I bought brand new that hit 100k let alone 200k miles!

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Did you search extensively online (rockauto, summit racing, magna flow, etc)? If GM made a car, discontinued or not, parts are available. Discontinued models requires manufacturers to have parts for at least ten years. You may not have searched enough but if you still cannot find any aftermarket exhaust system parts and don't want to buy OEM then you'll have to resort to custom making replacement parts from pieces to mate. This can be either welded by a muffler shop or specialty welders or bolted together. Your choice. Other members may have suggestions too. And there's always a non cat setup if your state doesn't require emissions inspections. The only problem with bypassing the catcon is the second O2 sensor needs to see exhaust to measure catcon efficiency in a system missing its catcon. This will generate an error code. At the least, a straight pipe will need a bung hole to mount the downstream sensor.
Thanks for ideas. I called Summit Racing and talked to Penelope (x-6862). Man, all service reps should be this good. I said I found one for an auto trans on their website, but not for a standard. She looked it up and said they didn't have one in their system. She then started looking at other brands and found that Magnaflow listed one, so she said she would contact them to see if they could supply Summit and then she would call me back with info.
She called the next day to tell me that Magnaflow hasn't developed that part yet, but she found another one from Davico and gave me the part number so I could order one from them.

Now, the new problem. When I looked up the Davico cat, it shows a pipe with 2 converters. I also looked it up from RockAuto and it shows the same thing. I crawled under my car and it only has one converter (and 1 O2 sensor). It really looks like the one for the auto transmission.

I think I might go with the idea of just welding on the replacement flex pipe.


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