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Old 10-27-2017, 07:34 PM   #1
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Default 2003 Ion Starting Issue

Hey all...long time lurker first time poster. After scouring all the threads on the PassLock starting issues...I have one more to bring to the table that I could not linpoint an answer to in precious threads. My 2003 Ion has the intermittent starting troubles...but never have I ever had to sit there for at least 10 minutes for it to finally turn over amd start. Every passlock issue I've read locks it up for 10 minutes however mine...sometime it may be 10 seconds, 1 min, 2 min... and just all random times. I have the PassLock illuminate on the instrument panel, but if its actually the PassLock, wouldn't I have to wait to full 10 min? This has me puzzled. I replaced the battery not long ago since I assumed it was time anyway as it had been in there for almost 7 years. It seemed to crank flawlessly for a few times after I installed the battery which I'm sure was a coincidence...but thought I may have repositioned a faulty battery cable but then it went back to the no starting after a few days. Any ideas? My next task is to jump the relay on the starter to verify its not that.

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Old 10-27-2017, 09:43 PM   #2
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I should also add that this car has 260k miles on it and has ran like a top for all of its life so far. I have owned it since 140k and have only put a battery and alternator in it..other than the normal wear and tear items such as tires/brakes.

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If the security light turns off during starting and you don't hear the starter, it's probably a worn out starter if its original to the car. Nothing lasts forever. A simple way to check when a starter is worn out - bang the starter a few times with a piece of 2x 4 lumber and try starting. Another way is to measure for voltage on the small gauge wire on the starter solenoid when someone turns the key to START. 12 volts should be on this wire as long as the ignition switch is held in START position. Beware of the starter suddenly running and turn over the engine - to stop the engine from running, remove the fuel pump fuse. This voltage check is to confirm at least one thing, the starting circuit. Virtually all starting circuits are trouble free but starters fail from normal wear and tear. Seeing 12v on the small wire during START and no starter operation points to a worn out starter. Even if the starter runs but is intermittent, the starter is probably worn out.

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