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Old 12-03-2011, 08:41 AM   #21
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Default Re: How-To: axle seal replacement w/ pictures

The best way to remove the axle is to jack up BOTH sides of the car take the tie rod loose, then get something to outline where the strut attaches to the knuckle. You can use a grease pencil, paint pen, scribe, whatever you have handy. Once you get the strut, tie rod, and axle nut loose. With both sides of the car off the ground you do not have to fight the sway bar. You can twist the knuckle to one side and pull it forward and down to allow the axle to pull out of the hub then easily pass over it when it is removed from the trans. If you do a good job marking where the strut attaches and carefully line it back up when you reassemble it you can avoid a costly alignment. I find this much faster and easier then fighting to separate the ball joint plus you don't have to worry about damaging it.

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Old 12-21-2011, 05:03 PM   #22
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Another thanks for the writeup with pics. I used this thread and wolfman's to replace my passenger axle yesterday.

Wanted to add my experiences... if you are using hand tools, break the axle nut loose while the wheel is on the ground, if you can. With a 2' breaker bar and on the ground, it was pretty trivial. You can't do this if you have alloys as it is covered; I was lucky and still have my steelies. took off the alloys, put the steelie on, removed the axle nut

Having the 3/4" forged ball-joint seperator made the breaking loose the ball joints for the tie rod end and the lower control arm ball joint a non-event. Place teh separator, a few cranks with a 19mm wrench and they broke loose. Picture of the tool in this link
http://saturnfans3.saturnfans.com/~s...postcount=1087 I'd read another post where the person had trouble prying the LCA down to break it loose and finally took off the strut

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Old 05-10-2012, 08:14 AM   #23
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Default Re: How-To: axle seal replacement w/ pictures

Follow-up -

Yea, break the knuckle at the ball joint and don't touch the strut-to-knuckle bolts.

FYI the driver side seal is a 4613N and a 3" exhaust piece fit it well.




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Old 10-02-2012, 11:51 PM   #24
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Here is a how-to for replacing the axle seal on a Saturn S-Series. I researched how to do this and found many others who had lots of trouble.

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Thanks a bunch. I'm replacing the CV axle / Transmission Output shaft seal on my 1997 SW2 that I bought new and it now has 152K on it. Was not sure what to drive the new sea with and forgot all about a the muffler pipe adapter shown in your pictures. Thanks a bunch!

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Old 05-06-2013, 04:13 PM   #25
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There is a design change in the middle of the 2001 model year. The original right hand seal has the metal protector and the 2001 1/2+ redesigned seal does not have the shield. The shield is part of the upgraded intermediate shaft. This is why Shawn mentioned that the picture was of a different seal than the seal he installed.
Hi everybody. I've been lurking and learning here for the 3 weeks or so since I bought my 2001 SC2. Nice forum. I'll try to contribute when I think I can help someone.

I removed my driver's side half shaft today to do a R&R. (I'm getting a squealing sound at low speeds and also the classic half shaft clunking at full right lock and I'm sure it's coming from the driver's side and I'm almost sure it's not a wheel bearing or brakes making the squealing sound.)

Is this the shield you speak of? Do I just transfer it to the J/Y half shaft I just bought or is the fact that it came out with the half shaft reason to replace the seal?
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:50 PM   #26
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I did some more research here and I think I've got my head around it: transfer the shield/cap thingy to the j/y axle and hit it with a little high quality grease and I should be good to go.

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Old 10-30-2013, 08:36 PM   #27
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Might be worth mentioning: the driver's side seal is held in by a snap ring. (I assume on all years, but someone clarify if that is not true.) The snap ring needs to be removed prior to installing the new seal. If the old seals are destroyed, its easy to not notice that $#@&! snap ring.

The drivers side seal does not fit flush as it clearly does on the passenger side. Instead it is recessed about 3/16" into the housing and then secured by the snap ring. It is possible to miss the snap ring and drive the new seal in where it will appear to be flush with the housing as it looks on the passenger side. This will cause it to leak. Trust me, I learned this from experience.

To remove the axles, I found it easiest to loosen the lower ball joint, then have an assistant pry downward on the control arm with a large prybar. While they are prying, strike the spindle/knuckle with a heavy hammer right at the point where the ball joint taper rod goes through it, being careful not to hit the ball joint rubber boot. It will pop loose.

On the driver's side, you can get a straight shot at driving in the seal by loosening the upper strut mount bolts and then pushing the whole strut/knuckle assembly rearward out of the way. As others have mentioned, a galvanized exhaust section, 18" or so piece of 2x4, and heavy hammer works great for driving in this seal.

Permatex claims that their anaerobic sealer matches the GM anaerobic sealer. I used a thin film around the outside diameter of the seals before installing them.

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Old 01-20-2014, 11:18 AM   #28
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Hi everyone!

Time to change seals has come, there was leak of fluid on one of them.
Passenger side seal installed successfully without problem, but driver side not.
Outer diametr of the seal is smaller that the hole in trans assembly, how that possible I don't know. Part number is National 4613N. I thought that seal is broken and I reordered another one from other vendor (ATP JO18) But this seal is idential to the first one.

I don't know what to do. I found original seals on ebay, but I'm not sure they will fit.

Could anyone help me ? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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Old 03-08-2014, 01:02 PM   #29
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VERY GOOD post! The only thing I would add is smear some grease into the double lip of the seal; it stays there for yrs protecting the sealing surface & reducing friction. I actually use Never Seize on any double lip seal; provides some waterproofing protection as well.

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Old 06-11-2014, 09:29 PM   #30
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Just what I was looking for, Thank yo very much.

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Default Re: How-To: axle seal replacement w/ pictures

Thanks for everybody's posts on this. I was replacing a rear main seal in my son's 1999 Saturn SL2 and figured while we had the trans out we'd just change the seals too. Excellent information here as always!

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Hello! I'm a noob
I was trying to get my left side differential seal out and did not realize it had a clip on the outer rim, because sludge was caked up around it.
I tried removing the seal with an air chizzel or hammer and messed the old seal up pretty bad, but I also chipped away a bit at the housing and hit the internal bearing a little.

Found the clip and removed it with seal puller.
Got an exhaust flange and tapped the new seal in.
I used a micrometer to measure the old axle vs. the new and the new is 1mm smaller around the input of the shaft.
I bought a surtrack from RockAuto, because it was cheapest. Around 43 bucks.
Installed surtrack axle.
After messing around with coolant. I forgot the resevior cap was left off coolant bottle and the engine was running
I shut the engine off when it boiled over
As soon as I shut the engine off and went to drain coolant, coincidentally the trans fluid start pissing out the new seal with new axle in place.

The seal looks good, and the axle looks ok. What the heck?
If anyone could help it would be appreciated.

Tell me what your thoughts are on why this could be happening.

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Old 08-27-2016, 07:13 AM   #33
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Is this for a automatic or manual transmission? I look up the parts and the manual seal (left side) is flat but the one on there now looks like it is for a automatic!

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I fixed the issue and found out I did not push the axle all the way in properly.

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In the middle of doing this (passenger side seal, axle, hub, bearing, etc..) now. It amazes even me how much I hate working on cars. I'm good at it, but I hate doing it, and am too poor to pay someone else to do it, or buy a new vehicle.

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Wow, nice read, was interesting, thank you for writing this!

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