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Old 09-28-2016, 05:49 PM   #21
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Default Re: '98 SL2 Catalytic Converter for California. Can I install one?

I am new to the forums and am not sure where to ask this. I have a 2002 SL2 with CA. emissions, but live in NY. Can I put a federal regulated catcon on without setting off the SES or CES. I don't know if the ECM or the O2 sensor are able to pick up on this. Thanks for any help in advance

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Old 09-28-2016, 05:51 PM   #22
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I am new to the forums and am not sure where to ask this. I have a 2002 SL2 with CA. emissions, but live in NY. Can I put a federal regulated catcon on without setting off the SES or CES. I don't know if the ECM or the O2 sensor are able to pick up on this. Thanks for any help in advance
You will have to check your county for emission related laws.

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Old 09-28-2016, 08:08 PM   #23
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Default Re: '98 SL2 Catalytic Converter for California. Can I install one?

Skinner, is there a check engine light on and if so, what's the error code? Here on the Right Coast, New York allows car owners to visit any auto store that provides free scans for error codes. Autozone. They connect to your car, download and display error code(s) and may print out results for customers otherwise insist on being shown whatever's displayed and write down error codes. Google for definitions.

If the catcon needs to be replaced, check with NYS DMV online or call to ask about replacing catcons from a California car being registered in New York and if there are any special considerations. Unlike California, NYS does not use tailpipe analyzers on vehicles with OBD II (vehicles from '96 and up) to follow federal emissions. If I'm not mistaken, as long as the check engine light remains off/all emissions monitors have passed to indicate on any reader/scan tool displaying 'READY', a vehicle meets NYS emissions.

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Old 09-29-2016, 04:39 AM   #24
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Default Re: '98 SL2 Catalytic Converter for California. Can I install one?

It amazes me how much CARB compliant cats cost. I can buy an entire car in Michigan for the cost of one lol. With no emission checks here it’s somewhat regular to see cars with clearly no cats installed (you can smell the raw fuel coming out of the exhaust when sitting a light) and I’ve never heard of anyone getting policed by it. I even know some ghetto shops that are willing to remove cats if your clogs up/fails and you give them the “I’m poor” story. They’ll just weld in a pipe and get you back on the road.

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Old 09-29-2016, 10:14 AM   #25
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There is no code, no ses, no ces.
Here is my screwed up issue. The flange connecting the head pipe to the intermediate pipe is so rusted and rotted that it cannot be bolted back together(it is pretty much missing at this point). It is leaking at the flange. Due to the fact that the O2 sensor is right there, I can't even get someone to sleeve it. I don't weld and do not have a lift so on my back makes it really tough. The cost of the head pipe with converter is just about $1100 from GM parts with CA emissions. No shop in NY can put in a non CARB compliant system without risking getting into some serious trouble. I hate doing exhaust work since I'm in NY and everything rusts so fast and so bad, I don't want to risk breaking every bolt, plus I really don't have the time.

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Did you check AMazon?

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Old 09-29-2016, 12:44 PM   #27
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Yes I have. There is only 1 that is CARB compliant and it is just a stand alone converter. I would still have to rebuild the rest of the system with misc pipes as well as weld in a port for the O2 sensor.

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I've been down this road. Honestly the cheapest way to go is to use an approved weld on converter and pay a shop to weld it on. Even in California dollars the labor wasn't too bad.

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Old 09-29-2016, 01:14 PM   #29
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I don't suppose a letter-punch kit would work? Change the part number to the CARB compliant one...lol

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Old 09-29-2016, 01:44 PM   #30
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I've been down this road. Honestly the cheapest way to go is to use an approved weld on converter and pay a shop to weld it on. Even in California dollars the labor wasn't too bad.

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now that is something I didn't think of. CARB compliant catcon, then just get someone to weld it in, and then sleeve it to the intermediate pipe. Thanks, I will have to look into that one. Great idea. I don't know why I didn't think of that. 50K on the car and only put about $1k into it since new in 2002, not including the essentials like brakes and oil changes.

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