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Old 08-14-2014, 11:30 AM   #101
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Piston Color Codes, Orientation and Order

I noticed that Razorbak's color code and order are the same as mine.
Mine being a 1996 SC2 DOHC Man. I'm not sure what his was.

Here's his picture:
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Color on the Intake Side

Timing Chain -- (1-Blank) -- (2-Black) -- (3-Red) -- (4-Orange) -- Transmission

Is this common for a given year range or model of Saturns?

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Old 08-14-2014, 11:55 AM   #102
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Probably not.

Any luck finding a new intake and those steel fittings?

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Old 08-14-2014, 12:07 PM   #103
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This weekend, in order to keep my mind off waiting for the engine, I'm going to a few JY's or PnP's to look around.

Anybody want me to pick up anything for you while I'm there?

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Old 08-14-2014, 12:34 PM   #104
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Good idea. Now is not the time to get in a hurry as you have exactly 1 chance to get this right. That new intake you find will have to go to the hot tank. Once you get it back you can mask it off and paint with Rustoleum High Performance paint. Limited color choice but it lasts just fine. Painting the exterior of the block is also an option. Things to think about now.

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Old 08-14-2014, 04:39 PM   #105
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Yes! I'm very interested.

Is there a good color for detecting problems, like oil or coolant leaks?

Besides, it proves the work I've done.
I can make all my friends JEALOUS!

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Old 08-14-2014, 06:21 PM   #106
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Block paint must be UV and hot oil and heat proof. This makes it expensive by definition.

This works on the cooler surfaces like the intake. http://www.rustoleum.com/en/DigitalE...e-enamel-spray

The aluminum or stainless steel colors work to preserve the clean new look of the cooler metal and any color you like will work on the intake.

These products will work anywhere on the block. http://www.por15.com/ENGINE-ENAMEL_p_47.html You paint the aluminum and then assemble and ouch up any scratches.

While the head is off painting it is a simple job. You will need a gallon of acetone as you wipe down the places you want painters masking tape to stick and the clean surface will hold the tape. Paint does not stick to oil so those blue rolls of paper shop towels are required and SAMs Club sells them and you can soak one with brake cleaner for the initial prep wipe down followed with acetone right before masking and painting. If you paint the block and head silver it will always look clean ans the bare aluminum will rapidly turn a dirty gray color. The paint will also any fluid leaks.

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Old 08-14-2014, 09:44 PM   #107
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Crankshaft Timing End - Key Removal

I forgot to post these in case anyone is looking for an alternative.

It worked for me. Your results may vary.

This type, but not this brand: Automotive Pulley Puller
-- http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...ler-66868.html

Crankshaft End - Timing Key Removal 1.jpg
Note that only one arm is attached to the puller.

Crankshaft End - Timing Key Removal 2.jpg
Also note that the pointed edge of the end of the arm is touching the back of the key and is NOT in the slot or touching the slot edges.

Turn the center rod slowly and the key will come out...slowly...

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Old 08-15-2014, 10:02 PM   #108
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Piston Color Codes, Orientation and Order

I noticed that Razorbak's color code and order are the same as mine.
Mine being a 1996 SC2 DOHC Man. I'm not sure what his was.

Here's his picture:
http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/sho...ds-1-4/cat/500

Color on the Intake Side

Timing Chain -- (1-Blank) -- (2-Black) -- (3-Red) -- (4-Orange) -- Transmission

Is this common for a given year range or model of Saturns?
Mine is a 96 SL2 DOHC Man.
http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/sho...rn1064/cat/650

Alas, it has a new custodian now.
http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/sho...-sl2/cat/13530

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Old 08-21-2014, 04:02 PM   #109
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Still here...Waiting for Engine/Crank numbers from the shop.

In the meantime:

Heater Fittings
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From another 96' SC2 DOHC (of course)

(intake / engine)
Heater Fittings - Engine & Intake - Better_1.jpg
Heater Fittings - Engine & Intake - Better_2.jpg

Note the "barbed" end on this pair.

Originals - No Barb

Attachment 39379

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Old 08-21-2014, 04:50 PM   #110
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You also need to get a new intake manifold as the water take off is eaten up on that as well.

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Old 08-26-2014, 10:50 AM   #111
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Oldnuc, et. al.,

Upon searching many links are non-existant.

Can you post some current manufacturer recommendations for the following:

- Pistons (I don't mind doing the holes, but will buy with holes if best)
- Piston Rings
- Connecting Rod Bearings
- Main Bearings

Sealed Power and Silvolite are what I saw for Pistons.

Also, please confirm and/or add for what to look out for:
- Pistons - Verify Weights are the same
- Rings - Ring End gaps are the same

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Old 08-26-2014, 01:32 PM   #112
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Silv-O-lite or Sealed Power. Buy the set of 4. Silv-O-lite is first choice. Always weigh the pistons.

Sealed Power Molly rings with new bores and plain rings with just a cleanup hone job.

Rods and mains use the silicon aluminum ally bearings. A-Series Sealed Power works.

Do not get all wound up in end gaps, just have enough and less than 0.040" max.

Put assembly lube on all-every moving surfaces except the back side of bearing shells.

You can use any name brand of bearings if you want.

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Old 10-18-2014, 10:45 PM   #113
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Ok folks....

Engine Block is back from the shop.
Here's the overall status:
- Cylinders bored 0.020 over
- New Piston Heads & Pins, Heads with oil drain back slots
- New Bearings for Mains and Piston Big Ends
- Crank Shaft polished, no grinding needed
- Head Valve Job
- Head and Block Decks were level

Paint
- Timing Cover, Oil Pan, Intake Manifold, Front of Block
- Later pictures will reveal what colors.

Oil Pump
- Oil Pump Gears - Inner and Outer
--- Lubricate both gears with assembly lube
--- Put Outer gear chamfer end into timing cover away from engine block
- Pump Relief Valve
---Test for leaks with solvent
- Oil Pump Cover
---Do not coat mating surfaces with assembly lube
- 9 Torx Screws
--- Used 6mm dia. x 1.0mm pitch tap to clean screw holes
--- Pre-clean screw holes and screws with acetone
--- Use Loctite/Permatex Red on Torx screws
--- Hand tighten first, in crisscross pattern
--- Torque to 8.5 ftlbs, in crisscross pattern

Timing Cover - Oil Pump Lubed.jpgOil Pump Assembled.jpgTiming Cover - Front.jpg
Pre-Lubed - Assembled - Front Cover

Next: Crankshaft & Main Bearings

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Old 02-28-2016, 02:31 PM   #114
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I guys, Major381 here and new to the site although Saturn96 bailed me out on a flywheel cover. My first Saturn, 1997 SL2, 1.9DOHC. I noticed the flywheel cover was missing so made a post and got help. The help from Saturn96 said I'd have to remove the trans stiffener plate so got back under there only to find that was missing too. The Haines manual calls it a "engine to transaxle reinforcement plate". Once again having a hell of a time finding this part. Does anyone have one for sale? Also, how much damage am I doing or could I do by driving it without one?
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