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Old 10-04-2007, 10:41 AM   #61
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Default Re: Are You Sure You'd Rather Have An Enclave?

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what little details?
Big part is just one of those "perception" things you either get, or you don't, in the first 5 minutes. For me it was the look inside & out, the seats (cloth was HUGELY different and improved over the Acadia & Outlook stuff, and they felt a touch better cushioned), richer interior ambiance in styling, trim, materials, and lighting color (again, not huge, but big enough of a change), the extremely hushed noise levels and lack of even much tire thumping over bumps, and a few other things.

Those are the "little" things to me, that were just striking--at least comparing a cloth to cloth model. This part makes a difference, because as said, a leather lined Outlook vs. Enclave seem much more common to me, at least in interior feel--but the Buick still seems richer. Again, the small things...

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Old 10-04-2007, 03:09 PM   #62
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Big part is just one of those "perception" things you either get, or you don't, in the first 5 minutes. For me it was the look inside & out, the seats (cloth was HUGELY different and improved over the Acadia & Outlook stuff, and they felt a touch better cushioned), richer interior ambiance in styling, trim, materials, and lighting color (again, not huge, but big enough of a change), the extremely hushed noise levels and lack of even much tire thumping over bumps, and a few other things.

Those are the "little" things to me, that were just striking--at least comparing a cloth to cloth model. This part makes a difference, because as said, a leather lined Outlook vs. Enclave seem much more common to me, at least in interior feel--but the Buick still seems richer. Again, the small things...

i got that in both cars. Enclave had all those little details my XR had

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Old 10-04-2007, 03:55 PM   #63
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Well, then, you should be happy as a clam with the Outlook

It's a fantastic vehicle, and I'm a big fan...but when WE experienced the Enclave, going back to the Outlook or Acadia actually feels like settling. It was just all those "little" things, that made it the ONE. I was actually just thinking, hey, I should have my mother look at another Acadia/Outlook just to play with again...but I already know, after the drive of both, she'd never consider either vs. the Buick that had her gleaming.

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Old 10-04-2007, 06:01 PM   #64
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Well, then, you should be happy as a clam with the Outlook

It's a fantastic vehicle, and I'm a big fan...but when WE experienced the Enclave, going back to the Outlook or Acadia actually feels like settling. It was just all those "little" things, that made it the ONE. I was actually just thinking, hey, I should have my mother look at another Acadia/Outlook just to play with again...but I already know, after the drive of both, she'd never consider either vs. the Buick that had her gleaming.
Good for your mom. Some of us would never consider the Enclave.

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Old 10-04-2007, 06:17 PM   #65
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what little details?
I like the chrome on the side windows and the grille and around the lights.
I like the analog clock.
I like the shape of the side windows.
I shouldn't have said it's better. I prefer it

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Old 10-04-2007, 10:11 PM   #66
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Again, all in the little things, and WHICH little things you like more

That's the best part of having 3 versions. Same pricing, essentially, and general equipment levels, but all unique enough for everyone to get the one they like the most. Whether that be GMC, Saturn, Buick...or Chevy.

Brand differentiation at its best, big time, because the general large crossover segment is the hottest thing going right now and should continue to be.

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Old 10-05-2007, 06:10 AM   #67
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Again, all in the little things, and WHICH little things you like more

That's the best part of having 3 versions. Same pricing, essentially, and general equipment levels, but all unique enough for everyone to get the one they like the most. Whether that be GMC, Saturn, Buick...or Chevy.

Brand differentiation at its best, big time, because the general large crossover segment is the hottest thing going right now and should continue to be.
That's why it makes no sense to try to convince people that one brand of the exact same vehicle with different sheet metal styling is better than another. If you can afford a loaded Outlook XR, which costs in the 40s, you can afford a loaded Enclave,which also costs in the 40s. So how is one a higher caliber than the other?

But like you said, it's which little things (like styling) you like the most. I can't stand the way Buicks look, and that includes the Enclave. Buicks are ugly, and when I'm in one I feel old, which is why I bought an Outlook XR. If Outlook didn't exist, I would've bought a loaded Acadia. I don't care for the trucky image of that big GMC in the middle of the grille and the front end isn't that attractive, and I can't stand the look of all that interior faux chrome, but it's preferable to ancient Buick. Every white-haired, senior citizen I know drives some kind of Buick, LeSabre being the most popular.

I'll leave the Enclave to grandma. I'm sure my mom and mom-in-law would also prefer the Enclave, which is exactly why I wouldn't buy one.

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Old 10-05-2007, 10:11 AM   #68
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I read this thread with a chuckle. People on a Saturn board trying to convince Outlook owners that the Buick is perferable to their beloved Outlooks. Not gonna happen. The Plainsman is a hardcore Outlook owner and so am I. I love my XR and obviously did not care for the Buick's styling as do most Outlook owners. With that being said, my comments are the following about all three Lambda's:

OUTLOOK:
I prefer:
The agressive macho grille of the Outlook. It looks great.
The wrap around rear glass window.
The fake wood interior looks good to my eyes and everyone who gets in comments on it positively.
The taillights
The square dual exhaust
I dislike the XE stainless steel interior, too easy to scratch up.


Acadia:
I dislike the round rear LED tailights.
I dislike the front of the Acadia including the Grille.
I dislike the way the dash is laid out and the color.
I wish I had the HUD.

ENCLAVE:
I dislike the roundness of the exterior styling
I dislike the round portholes
I really dislike the Enclave Grille
I wish I had the 4/45 warrany
I wish I had the extra sound dampening (not that the Outlook is loud)

All in all I made the right choice for me. People can debate this until the end of time. All three are excellent vehicles and none really stands out except the Buick because of the warranty.

But again, don't come on a Saturn board and expect sympathy from Outlook owners, we're not buying it.

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