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Old 11-18-2009, 11:35 PM   #1
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Unprecedented discounts on the last remaining Saturns present an enticing case to anyone in the market for a new car, especially if you're a Saturn owner. Al Clapsaddle, senior sales consultant at Saturn/West in Ohio, sent me an intriguing e-mail the other day detailing the laundry list of incentives available until November 30

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Old 11-19-2009, 01:38 AM   #2
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:09 AM   #3
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It sounds like a good deal at first, until you factor in a few things. Firstly, it's *at most* a $6500 rebate. If you're looking at a higher priced, slow selling vehicle, that's really not a whole lot. I mean, for a lot of vehicles over $30k, that's the normal rebate. And there's more, that $4000 rebate is not available with 0% financing. On the Pontiac G8, they were throwing about 7k on the car WITH 0% financing.

I guess it depends what you want though, it's certainly a pretty decent deal if you're buying a very cheap car, but if you're looking at a more expensive model, it's the "Deal of the Century"*

*Note deal of the Century does not imply that this deal is a good deal, or better than any other deal at any other time. It is simply a name.

That doesn't even begin to factor in the incredibly dismal residual value the vehicles will have. Or that they already do have.

But really, you have a *paid for* Vue Redline, why would you want to pay to own a lesser vehicle?

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Old 11-19-2009, 12:04 PM   #4
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The "current" offers are still crap! If you are really in the market for a good deal, just look on ebay, I have seen 2008, 2009 Auras selling for half of what KBB is! One just sold the other day for $8500 with 18k mi on it 2009 V6 fully loaded! I kicked myself for not having a higher max bid, I bid $8300 Oh well, just keep your eyes open and you will see. I am guessing once it comes closer to closing time for good, whatever is left will be put on ebay with no reserve! That would be sweet.

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Old 11-19-2009, 03:37 PM   #5
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If you are really in the market for a good deal, just look on ebay, I have seen 2008, 2009 Auras selling for half of what KBB is! One just sold the other day for $8500 with 18k mi on it 2009 V6 fully loaded!
Those are used cars. The incentives are on new Saturns with full warrantys.

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Old 11-19-2009, 05:11 PM   #6
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Those are used cars. The incentives are on new Saturns with full warrantys.
But wouldn't you rather pay 25% for a car with 75% of its warranty than 90% for a car with 100%? I mean really, you can buy a hell of a nice extended warranty for the difference in price.

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Old 11-19-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
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Still not worth it. I can do just as good or better with a 2010 here, for basically the same sticker price. Additionally, selling or trading the Saturn in the future is historically lower, who wants a car, without a company. Other than purchasing the car dirt cheap, not this deal.

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Old 11-19-2009, 07:55 PM   #8
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My experience has been dealers including Saturn dealers never offer the full KBB trade-in value. It is always much less. Maybe that is why right now 80%+ of the Saturns produced are still on the road...?

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:45 PM   #9
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Still not worth it. I can do just as good or better with a 2010 here, for basically the same sticker price. Additionally, selling or trading the Saturn in the future is historically lower, who wants a car, without a company. Other than purchasing the car dirt cheap, not this deal.
2010 what?

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Old 11-24-2009, 09:08 PM   #10
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2010 what?
Just as I said, I can give an example. I can purchase a new chevy malibu, sticker is about 23 grand, pick it up for 17 grand. Buying a new saturn now, is not a deal. No matter what spin one puts on it. It's a dead item now.

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:15 PM   #11
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That was really nice of you. If you decide to get the Aura, let me know so that I can hold the one that you are interested in.

Just think, you will be one of the few that have a LAST Year Saturn!

I now wish that I had NOT modded my 2008 Aura. If I had left it original, then I would be in a position to trade it and get the 2009 Aura XR 4 cylinder.

BUT my smile turned upside down when I saw some of the replies. I am glad that there are so many EXPERTS out there.

Typically on Saturn trade-ins our facility has used KBB and rated the trades equal or greater than KBB shows. Though there are times when KBB has been higher than the actual value.

It is also interesting to see SOME of the most negative posters on this forum have been here a year or less. Wonder if Steve Scharf is posting here now?

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:39 PM   #12
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Unless you are just feeling the real need for something newer, the 2.4 Aura is kind of a step down IMO. The 2.4 is way underpowered for it, the V6 is a different story and has plenty of power

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It is also interesting to see SOME of the most negative posters on this forum have been here a year or less. Wonder if Steve Scharf is posting here now?
Ow. That brings back bad memories. He was very good at trolling, dumping baloney onto the rec.autos.makers.saturn newsgroup just to get a rise from people.

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