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Old 09-23-2009, 10:22 PM   #1
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General Motors will add a third shift at its Fairfax, Kansas; Ft. Wayne, Indiana; and Lansing Delta Township, Michigan plants - restoring 2,400 jobs and enabling GM to increase its manufacturing plant utilization in the U.S.

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Old 09-23-2009, 10:29 PM   #2
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That's good news... I hope they can sustain the volume...

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Old 09-23-2009, 10:59 PM   #3
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When the Penske deal is done and Saturn is truly no longer connected to GM will GM news be covered here still?

GM tossed Saturn, Pontiac, Saab, and Hummer out like garbage and that includes all those owner who invested in those brands.

Either way you cut it, GM is pretty much saying people who bought those brands are idiots and they are not worth keeping, but hey, why not buy a Chevy, Cadillac, GMC, or other 'worthwhile,' GM brand?

Honestly, I hope GM fails and Ford wins out in the end.

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Old 09-24-2009, 08:10 AM   #4
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When the Penske deal is done and Saturn is truly no longer connected to GM will GM news be covered here still?
I should hope not. The GM news should then be moved to the Off Topic section.

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GM tossed Saturn, Pontiac, Saab, and Hummer out like garbage and that includes all those owner who invested in those brands.
Unless they owned stock in GM, people who purchased the defunct brands "invested" nothing. They purchased a product, like a TV or microwave. If GE stopped making your style of washing machine, would you get this upset?

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Either way you cut it, GM is pretty much saying people who bought those brands are idiots and they are not worth keeping, but hey, why not buy a Chevy, Cadillac, GMC, or other 'worthwhile,' GM brand?
No, they're saying those brands aren't pivotal and profitable. GM is a business. If something isn't generating a positive ROI, it gets canned. It's really about time they gathered the balls to make this decision.

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Honestly, I hope GM fails and Ford wins out in the end.
Well, don't hold your breath. Both are now well-positioned for earnings growth.

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Old 09-25-2009, 06:45 AM   #5
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Well, don't hold your breath. Both are now well-positioned for earnings growth.
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:09 PM   #6
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When the Penske deal is done and Saturn is truly no longer connected to GM will GM news be covered here still?
No, it won't. The only time you'll see GM news is if its related to any of the GM-built products.

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Old 09-24-2009, 11:32 PM   #7
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Nope, I'm not one of those here that whine and ***** about GM becuase they got rid of the Saturn brand. I can see their reasonings for doing so, and if you are so blind that you can't it really shows how much of a Kool Aid drinker you are


Give me a break. Saturn now has more of a chance under Penske than it did under GM. This isn't saying much, since Saturn had about 0% chance of being a success under GM, but even 10% under Penske is better than 0.

I bought Saturn vehicles. I bought GM stock. I believed in the brand and company and I was wrong. It doesn't mean I have to drink the Kool aid and continue to buy GM vehicles, prop up the company, and buy their 'new,' stock. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I have no respect for a company that is bailed out to the tune of billions of tax payer dollars saying they are 'too big to fail,' and 'bankruptcy would be cataclysmic,' for the US economy, then they go and declare bankruptcy a few months later.

Then they have the nerve to come on TV in a marketing campaign saying they are putting their money up to show us how great GM cars are. Excuse me? Who's money? It isn't their money, it's tax payer money.

Now I don't know if you work at GM in a GM brand that remains or what your deal is, but you're the one bashing one time GM supporters who have had it and decided GM isn't worth supporting.

In spite of all the BS GM did in the past, the billions tax payers will not see again, the laughable claims of GM being better than the competition, you sit there and ignore all of this crap.

Nobody in their right mind would be positive about GM right now, unless their livelihood and future is somehow connected to that crap company.

Go to MSN and check out the GM articles. The articles are positive, but the 700+ comments from random people are 90%+ negative.


http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...aspx?GT1=33002

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Old 09-25-2009, 06:51 AM   #8
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Go to MSN and check out the GM articles. The articles are positive, but the 700+ comments from random people are 90%+ negative.
Most people who comment on blogs are negative whining complainers so take the 90% number lightly. People will buy GM cars if the quality is good and the deals are good. We'll forget all about "government bailouts" if they produce great cars.

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Old 09-25-2009, 08:45 AM   #9
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Sorry, Davidsky: I won't.

Jaseball is correct. Not going to pay twice and get a rebate of my own [and my neighbor's hard earned tax]money for the privilege of buying another GM car whose bushings give out at 26,000 miles, whose ignition switch had to be replaced 5 times, whose window and headlight leaks came baked right in from the factory. I didn't mentyion the creaking steering at low speed did I? And while I still love the car, I won't be buying again from GM.

Sseriesguy you are pretty free with the name calling and accusations. I would suggest you put down the GM pom poms and stop taking their press releases as hard news.

You bring the level of discussion down to grade school playground level.

There's a reason GM went bankrupt and it's not because of so called "kool-aid" drinkers. That by definition would be the people who keep buying junk from GM and keep getting burned. GM didn't make a "few" bad cars or use a "few" junk parts. They did it over decades.

Here's a resume of the GM cars in my family:
84 Citation: trans at 80,000 miles
84 Olds Ciera: 3 head gaskets, numerous sensors
86 Olds Calais: 3 alternators, AC system, electrical failures, torque converter switch brakes every 20,000 miles and all before 50,000 miles.
99 Cavalier: 1 recall for radiator shielding, intermediate steering shaft failure, brakes every 20,000 miles. Best GM of the lot
87 Coupe De Ville: oil leaks that wouldn't quit. 15 trips to the dealer to fix.
05 ION: strut bushings, leaky headlights and rear window,5 ignition switches, creaking steering. 40,000 miles
95 Saturn: 2 cracked heads before 36,000 miles, oil guzzler.

And if you say I only had "bottom of the barrel cars", who made them that way but GM ?

Now, given my history with the "Mark Of Excellence", I think that if I was stupid enough to buy from GM again I would truly be a "Kool Aid Drinker".

sseriesguy:Maybe you should learn some history first before you start attacking other people for their decisions. Otherwise, STFU.

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