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Old 01-10-2008, 10:47 PM   #1
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1 of 10

1912
Cadillac
Back when cars were started with a crank -- and arms were broken in the process - this Cadillac became the first one equipped with an electric self starter.

2 of 10

1927
LaSalle
Early cars were assembled from engineering parts without any thought as to how they looked. GM hired stylist Harley Earle from Hollywood and he actually designed them, starting with the LaSalle.

3 of 10

1953
Chevrolet Corvette
The first production car with a fiberglass body and first American sports car. The latest model, a 620-horsepower monster nicknamed "Blue Devil," was inspired by Duke grad CEO Rick Wagoner.

4 of 10

1955
Chevrolet
With a peppy 265-cubic-inch V-8 and fresh streamlined styling, it created a new identity for this mainstream brand. More than 1.7 million Bel Airs and other models were sold the first year, making Chevy as American as baseball and apple pie.

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1959
Chevrolet Corvair
An innovative air-cooled, rear-engine car introduced to compete with Volkswagen's Beetle, the Corvair was attacked by Ralph Nader for its unstable rear suspension. It was discontinued in 1969, the first of several failed efforts at new technology.

6 of 10

1964
Pontiac GTO
By dropping a 389-cubic-inch engine into a plain ordinary Tempest, engineer John Z. DeLorean created the first muscle car, exciting teenagers across the country and spawning a lot of bad popular music.

7 of 10

1990
Saturn
Another GM effort to compete with the imports, Saturn represented a fresh start free of old encumbrances. Later it became a corporate orphan and languished for a decade until revived with products designed by Germany's Opel.

8 of 10

1996
EV1
The first production battery electric car in decades, it was launched with great fanfare. GM learned a lot about electronics that it applied to later models. But the two-seat car was costly to build and its range was impractically limited; GM cancelled it in 2003.

9 of 10

2008
Chevrolet Tahoe gas electric hybrid
The first rear-drive sport utility with a battery-powered motor, the beefy Tahoe gets the same city mileage as a small passenger car.

10 of 10

2010
Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid
GM's latest try at the electric car, the Volt has batteries that can be recharged at home and a small gasoline engine to use as an emergency backup. It may represent the alternative fuel future until fuel cells reach production.

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Old 01-10-2008, 10:58 PM   #2
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Another article, related to this one, with regards to GM's turnaround...

I never cease to be amazed at how far GM has come under Rick Wagoner...
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:11 PM   #3
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anyone else notice the 55 chev is a 56 , the saturn is a 91 and im 90 percent sure there was no 59 corvair.

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Old 01-11-2008, 01:37 AM   #4
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Am I the only one that thinks the Volt looks a lot like the Saturn Curve concept?

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Am I the only one that thinks the Volt looks a lot like the Saturn Curve concept?
Now that you mention it...

They have similar proportions. Actually, I think the Volt look better than the Curve Concept. But those Volt pics are of the Volt Concept which will change as well and has changed already. There's several pics of hints and sneek peaks GM has given of what the production Volt will look like.

I'm not sure why the article gets the year wrong on some of the cars. I thought maybe they were going for year of introduction, but the rest of them are the model year.

I've seen one of those 1912 Cadillacs in person and I can say they are quite impressive.

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Am I the only one that thinks the Volt looks a lot like the Saturn Curve concept?
It's been bugging me for quite some time. I'd look at the Volt and wonder why it seemed so familiar.

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Old 01-11-2008, 12:52 PM   #7
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anyone else notice the 55 chev is a 56 , the saturn is a 91 and im 90 percent sure there was no 59 corvair.
The Corvair was introduced in 1959, but as a 1960 model, so you are correct, there was no 1959 Corvair.

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I did notice the '55 Chevy was a '56. But then, I am probably showing my age!

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anyone else notice the 55 chev is a 56 , the saturn is a 91 and im 90 percent sure there was no 59 corvair.
The Corvair was introduced in 1959, but as a 1960 model, so you are correct, there was no 1959 Corvair.
The same was true with Saturn: There was no 1990 model year Saturn S-Series; the S-Series began production in 1990 and were called 1991 model year cars.

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Thanks for the clarifications on the model years. I used all of your dates when I posted this story to the front page!!

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Bit of rose colored glasses there.
How about
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1980 X-cars- made America safe for the sale of millions of Japanese branded cars every year

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1980 X-cars- made America safe for the sale of millions of Japanese branded cars every year
Agreed the X Cars weren't the world standard by any measurement....

But - thanks to the X car, we got the 60 degree V6, the starting point for a lot of great GM V6 motors

And whether you liked their stodgy styling or not, the Celebrity, 6000, Cutlass Ciera and Century were all pretty mechanically solid cars...and used the same basic mechanicals that were found in the X cars...and also were probably the worst example of platform sharing between the divisions...At the time, Fortune magazine put all 4 on the cover and asked readers to try to tell one from the other...wasn't easy...

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Fortune magazine put all 4 on the cover and asked readers to try to tell one from the other...wasn't easy...





It's like deja-vu all over again!

Re-badging at it's worst! This is why the Japanese are wiping the floor with us still.

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Re-badging at it's worst! This is why the Japanese are wiping the floor with us still.
The rebadging wasn't/isn't a problem. GM can rebadge good/reliable cars all day. It was the ill fitting doors, moldings falling off, broken seats, odd dashboard layouts and plumes of smoke coming out the tailpipe at 20-30K miles that were the problem.

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It's like deja-vu all over again!

Re-badging at it's worst! This is why the Japanese are wiping the floor with us still.
hahhaahahhaahhaha....

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But - thanks to the X car, we got the 60 degree V6, the starting point for a lot of great GM V6 motors
Not sure that any of the 60 degree V6s are all that great. I would've rather had a DOHC 4.

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Agreed the X Cars weren't the world standard by any measurement....
I imagine 2 people walking into a Chevy dealer in 1980. One buys a Citation the other buys a Malibu. The Citation blew up in a year and it's owner is now a sworn Toyota buyer. The Malibu is still alive, now being used by an amateur drag racer.

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I imagine 2 people walking into a Chevy dealer in 1980. One buys a Citation the other buys a Malibu. The Citation blew up in a year and it's owner is now a sworn Toyota buyer. The Malibu is still alive, now being used by an amateur drag racer.
Whoa! No offence ment, but talk about your apples orages and grapes analogies.

Apple (malibu) =a 1970's RWD car with a '50's V8 engine reworked, but nothing really new there. Good in some aspects but poor in others.
Orange (citatation)= a new effort to make a V6, full sized, 6 passenger, FWD car, with a transverse mount on a 1970 chassis. (x-body)
Grapes (toyota)= 4 cyl RWD. Did they even have a "mid size car" at this time? Corona had a 2.2L I4, 4dr. Another well aged product that started life in like '69.

The truth is the malibu got poor gas mileage for its size, and the Citation had some new platform blues, and Toyota did not have a 6 passenger car. But they had a decent smaller car products. I won't go into price differences.

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I yawned at most of the other listings. they all seem incremental, except for the GM EV1. It was all new, and held great promise, and was left to die.

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I would have put the Cadillac V16 on the list, especially the beauties from the early 30s.

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Whoa! No offence ment, but talk about your apples orages and grapes analogies.

Apple (malibu) =a 1970's RWD car with a '50's V8 engine reworked, but nothing really new there. Good in some aspects but poor in others.
Orange (citatation)= a new effort to make a V6, full sized, 6 passenger, FWD car, with a transverse mount on a 1970 chassis. (x-body)
Grapes (toyota)= 4 cyl RWD. Did they even have a "mid size car" at this time? Corona had a 2.2L I4, 4dr. Another well aged product that started life in like '69.

The truth is the malibu got poor gas mileage for its size, and the Citation had some new platform blues, and Toyota did not have a 6 passenger car. But they had a decent smaller car products. I won't go into price differences.
The Malibu and Citation were sold next to each other in 1980. What I meant was the buyer of the then old fashioned Malibu probably had better luck than the buyer of the newfangled Citation. What I meant about Toyota (or Honda) was that the buyer of the Citation was so PO'd about his new car being a huge POS, swore off ever buying an American car again. He might also have had a friend, relative or colleague who had a Celica, Corolla or a Civic (maybe an Accord) that went over 100K without a hitch. Maybe in late 1982 he happened to notice that Toyota had just come out with the Camry, a roomy 4 passenger sedan/hatchback.

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