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f3qu3t 05-29-2006 08:22 PM

What caused my wet trunk
 
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So, I was talking with my service advisor and asked him how difficult it would be to remove the rear quarter panel (to find the source of the leak), "Oh, not hard at all. There's like only three bolts holding it on" he says. Alright, sounds good. I had some time yesterday so I figured I'd work on it. Turns out, there's more like nine! :dizzy: Four of them are nice and hidden. :upset: Regardless, it wasn't all that complicated. Just removed the tail_light, bumper, and [I]ground effects[/I](?) under the door. Perfect, removed the quarter panel.... and there it is! Stupid crack. I threw some silicon everywhere to ensure no more leakage. Next time I'll attack the other side. It should be a little easier, not to mention quicker, now that I know [I](somewhat)[/I] what I am doing. :)

blackeagle1 05-29-2006 08:55 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
Did you have to remove the quarter panel to find it? I just bought a 97 SC2 where it's obvious that the trunk has been leaking for a long time. The Spare tire well cover and trunk carpet are moldy, and the jack and spare tire are completely rusted.

mikewms 05-30-2006 02:49 AM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
I have the same problem. I figured it was under the rear quarter panel. I was looking at the bolts. It looked like they were torx. Is that true and if so what size are they?

f3qu3t 05-30-2006 09:25 AM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
[QUOTE]Did you have to remove the quarter panel to find it?[/QUOTE]Yes, I did have to remove the quarter panel. It really isn't all that difficult. I could give you step by step if you like. When I get home this afternoon I could see if I have a better picture of the process.

[QUOTE]I was looking at the bolts. It looked like they were torx. Is that true and if so what size are they?[/QUOTE]There is four torx screws (of the nine). Two of them are in the door, surrounded by rubber. The other two are at the tail.light. I am not sure of the exact size, though I can get that for you later today.

Uzzy 05-30-2006 09:34 AM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
Mine will be going in this week (or at least very soon) for a leaky trunk fix. It was already mis-diagnosed as a bad trunk seal, which was not covered under warranty. :upset: The rear quarter will have to come off. :( But this time it'll be warranty. :)

f3qu3t 05-30-2006 06:15 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
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torx screws sizes T-15 & T-30 (locations shown in green)
socket sizes 10mm & 7mm (locations shown in blue - I can't remember if I used any other sizes)

I am not a professional, and by no means do I know what I am doing! :D

1. Remove the 2 T-30 torx screws inside of the door. They are surrounded by rubber.

2. Removed the tail.light with the 2 T-15 torx screws. Pull the tail.light straight back, then disconnect the cable.

3. The best part of all.:upset: Remove all of the 'black plastic plugs' (not sure of their proper name) from the wheel-well, ground effects(?)(the thing below the door) and the bumper.
--If you don't know how to remove them, just seperate & remove the cap (start with the wheel-well, they are easier), now pull out the plug - some look as if they don't have a cap, they do, it is just flush with the plug--
The wheel-well has 5 plugs & 3 screws (7mm)
The bumper has 4 or 5 on the top as well as 5 or 6 underneath.
With the plugs removed from the ground effects, just simply slide it towards the front, and then pull it towards you.

4. There are 2 screws (10mm) that hold the bumper to the quarter panel. Access them through the wheel well (if you haven't removed the wheel-well guard, now would be a good time). There isn't a lot of room, just enough :dizzy:. The bumper can now be pulled away. Take note of the white thing circled in pink (for re-assembly).

5. Remove the 2 screws where the tail.light would be. Look inside to see how the little latch thing clips into the panel. (shown on the other pic)

6. Don't forget that bolt that's on top (usually covered by the trunk lid), and the 2 bolts that were hiding behind the ground effects.

7. The panel can now be removed. !!!There is a clip (circled in yellow) holding the panel on. I did not know this at the time, and just pulled the panel away---everything was fine. After inspecting the panel, it looks as if, to remove the panel, somehow(?) slide it forward. I did not do this. When I took it off, I pulled. When I put it back on, I pushed - no damage(for me).

Remember: I am not a professional, and by no means do I know what I am doing!

This process was extremely easy. :)
Try to remember where everything goes when removing pieces. :) I was left with an extra plastic plug. -One less to remove next time! :yes:

Any questions, feel free to ask, email, I'll do what I can to help!

mikewms 05-30-2006 06:54 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
I think these instructions are great. I will be doing this over the weekend. I will let you know how it goes. A big thanks as the Saturn Chilton's manual doesn't tell you how to remove the rear quarter panel. :)

f3qu3t 05-30-2006 10:25 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
...a little more concise.
For the clip that holds the panel under the window (circled in yellow), before you try to remove it, take a look at it by lifting the seal up a bit. As you are looking at it, run your finger along, towards the back, to see if you can see the "lip" gradually thin out. I think this may be the proper way to remove the panel - by sliding the panel towards the front, to position the thinned out lip at the clip.

I'd hate for someone to pull their panel off and have some damage done to it.

Again, like I know what I'm talking about. ;)

Uzzy 05-30-2006 10:41 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
[SIZE="5"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]"Uzzy's Instructions for Fixing a Mysterious Trunk Leak"[/FONT][/SIZE]

Step 1: Buy lease return SC1, [B]AND[/B] the Saturn factory extended bumper-to-bumper warranty. :yes:
Step 2: After first diagnosis for leaky trunk seal is wrong, and seal is [B]not[/B] covered under warranty, let Saturn of Windsor's service advisor know about it :upset:
Step 3: Book 2nd appointment for the wet trunk.
Step 4: Demand the loaner car you were promised by the idiot that told you that you would get one when you signed up for the warranty.
Step 5: Hope for the best, and be glad you got the warranty,:) because not everyone is so lucky. :(

To all you without, sorry, guys/gals, that sucks. :( It's something I could easily do myself, but why would I, when one of my best friend's can get paid to do it? :D He's getting it dropped off on Monday morning. :yes: Good Luck to all of you on your own. Seems to be a common complaint :hmpf:

mikewms 06-02-2006 11:50 AM

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Well, thanks to your patient posting of instructions I now have a very dry trunk. I found the crack in the silicone in virtually the same place as yours. I siliconed the crap out of it and everywhere else it looked like it might leak in the future. I let it cure for a day and today washed the car. I would usually get water in the trunk during a wash. Today it was as dry as a bone. Tonight will be the real test as we are expecting heavy thunderstorms. Thanks again. :D

f3qu3t 06-04-2006 02:45 PM

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Hey, that's great to hear!
It had rained here most of this last week, I tell ya, what a relief it was to find a dry trunk. It feels good knowing, after it rains or a wash, there is no longer a need to dry out the trunk.

I'm glad I could help.

Uzzy 06-05-2006 06:13 PM

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[QUOTE=Uzzy][SIZE="5"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]"Uzzy's Instructions for Fixing a Mysterious Trunk Leak"[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Ok let me make an addendum: [SIZE="6"]IT'S NOT COVERED UNDER THE BUMPER TO BUMPER WARRANTY![/SIZE] :upset: :upset: :upset:
They told my buddy working on it, after he had the rear quarter panel off. Normally the job would charge over 4.5hrs, but they are charging me only 2 for the whole thing. And it was in for a rough idle as well, and it turns out it's not a bad upper engine mount, it's leaky intake. So that's good news to my friend that would have lost his shirt on my car. It's covered under warranty and it's a gravy job for him. So either way, it was nicer for him to remove the panels in the air conditioned shop with a hoist rather than both of us busting our nuts in his driveway in the hot summer sun. :dazed: It was weird to pull into the Saturn of Windsor parking lot and see my car driving around the lot without a rear right quarter tho. :p

f3qu3t 06-05-2006 06:30 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
Well that sucks.

Though, paying for 2 hrs labour is a lot better than 4.5!

Uzzy 06-05-2006 06:43 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
[QUOTE=f3qu3t]Well that sucks.
Though, paying for 2 hrs labour is a lot better than 4.5![/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's good thing they like me there. :yes:

DeCaff2006 06-05-2006 06:46 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
OK I am sooooo glad I read this post. I am having the same problem with my 94 SC2 but I didn't want to post it just yet as I though the spoiler seals were leaking. Now, armed with this post and the uber sweet How-To by f3qu3t, this will be my weekend project.

That How-To should seriously be posted in the How-To section.

mlt01SC2 03-19-2007 02:54 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
Thanks for posting. I bought my 2001 SC2 second hand, 50,000+ miles on it and when I washed it, I found out why is was a lower priced than most. Too bad the original owner didnt get it fixed first!

I had been hunting the net for such pictures and instructions. This will be a sweet fix, should only take about an hour or so! :yes:

orangekid13 03-19-2007 03:55 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
wow I wish I had seen this before I did it without instructions or any idea of how to get it off last wednesday... scraped off a bunch of the other sealant on there and found a couple other tiny rust spots and another gap... sealed them up with roofing tar caulking and put it back together the next morning...
anyways, i had the EXACT same problem

I drilled out those two rivets on the edge by the door too... oops. had to take my mom's car to the hardware store to get some rivets/washers to put those little brackets back on.

I also washed it the day i put it back together cause it hasn't had a bath since august, even though i knew it was going to rain that night. there has not been any more water in my trunk since.

Guess that's what I get for buying a car that had always slept in a garage...

still need to find time to jack up the front, take out that wheel well liner and figure out why the fender isn't fully secured there... it's only cosmetic so it'll prolly have to wait til i'm home for the summer in may. that's right, my summer starts may 5th!

RickKlages 03-19-2007 04:08 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
This summer I think I will remove all plastic body panels and drive around that way.

ick

Carl26 04-28-2009 08:23 AM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
[QUOTE=orangekid13;1021908]
I drilled out those two rivets on the edge by the door too... oops. had to take my mom's car to the hardware store to get some rivets/washers to put those little brackets back on. [/QUOTE]

So do those two rivets that are on the front edge of the quarter panel near the door need to be drilled out or removed? According to f3qu3t's instructions, they don't. That is what stopped me from removing the quarter panel.

Thanks for the instructions though, I need to fix the trunk leak in my '98 SC2. I'll probably be doing it very soon.

alordofchaos 01-21-2017 07:53 PM

Re: What caused my wet trunk
 
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This thread helped me quite a bit to remove the quarters on my 02 SC2 to seal leaks, so I'll add my pics and comments here[QUOTE=f3qu3t;838598]1. Remove the 2 T-30 torx screws inside of the door. They are surrounded by rubber.[/QUOTE] On my car, just the lower one on each side was surrounded by a rubber bumper. Top bolt was in clear sight (yellow arrows)

Do not try to remove the small black bolt thingie (blue arrow) - it does not need to come out, just the two T30 bolts

[QUOTE]3. The best part of all.:upset: Remove all of the 'black plastic plugs' (not sure of their proper name) from the wheel-well, ground effects(?)(the thing below the door) and the bumper.[/QUOTE] These are our old friends, the push-pin. Different from the fender ones. It helps to use the special tool sold at auto stores, or a tack puller to get the pin started out

[IMG]http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/b2/b215cf01-46b4-4cbe-a285-38772e2c1648_400.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE]5. Remove the 2 screws where the tail.light would be. [/QUOTE] One bolt is on the bottom (see pic) and the other is on the top. Both are vertical 10mm head bolts


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