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minjaz 04-02-2012 09:14 PM

Audio Gone! Need wiring schematic / help
 
So my stereo started making a bit of static, then it went out. The unit works, but there is no sound. I checked the fuse in the trunk, it was blown. Replaced, it blew right away. So I thought it was the amp.... pulled out the amplifier, put in a new fuse, it blew right away (25 Amp).... so I thought it was the radio, I took apart the entire dash, pulled out the radio, all wires looked good. Put in a new fuse while I had the radio in my hand and everything worked. I remounted the radio and everything was ok... drove the car for a bit and no sound again, fuse blew again. So I obviously have a short somewhere between the stereo and that main fuse in the trunk (Fuse number 13 - audio amplifier).

Has anyone had this problem? If so, any help?

Does anyone have a wiring diagram from the stereo to that fuse? Or the amplifier wiring diagram? Where does the power come from for that unit?

Thanks,

Minja

greenman 04-03-2012 02:55 AM

Re: Audio Gone! Need wiring schematic / help
 
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Only the amp receives power thru fuse 13. Radio supplies the amp ground. Look for an intermittent short to ground on the red wire with white stripe between fuse 13 & the amp. B+ is finding it's way to ground somewhere before the load is reached, overdrawing the fuse capacity.

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minjaz 04-03-2012 12:24 PM

Re: Audio Gone! Need wiring schematic / help
 
Thanks for the schematic, you're the man!

That makes sense to me. So let me say this and let me know if it makes sense. So when I removed the amplifier and put the fuse back in, it blew right away, which means its the wire and not the amplifier (since it was grounding before it even went through the amp). I might just cut that wire right out of the fuse box, solder in a new one and route it to the amp myself if that's the case, might save me time over ripping it all apart, unless its easy to fish this harness out.

I'll rip apart the trunk again tonight and find that SOB.

-Minja

greenman 04-03-2012 01:47 PM

Re: Audio Gone! Need wiring schematic / help
 
[QUOTE=minjaz;1863287]So when I removed the amplifier and put the fuse back in, it blew right away, which means its the wire and not the amplifier (since it was grounding before it even went through the amp).[/QUOTE]

Yes. Short has to be upstream of the amp then.


[QUOTE] I might just cut that wire right out of the fuse box, solder in a new one and route it to the amp myself if that's the case, might save me time over ripping it all apart, unless its easy to fish this harness out.[/QUOTE]

It may well be faster to do that. The harness routes on the back wall of the rear compartment. PM me with email address & I'll send the routing view (though it should be right under the plastic rear wall trunk liner).

minjaz 04-03-2012 09:45 PM

Re: Audio Gone! Need wiring schematic / help
 
So I've become an expert at ripping out the trunk lining... I can rip it all out and put it back in in less than 5 minutes now LOL.

So I diagnosed the problem some more, something was intermittent, I was getting a 12V drop where needed, but sometimes not... Ended up getting the appropriate 12V drop (between +ve and ground). I put in a fuse.... moved the fuse box to look at the back again and it popped...

I separated all the wires at the main harness going to the fuse box and noticed 2 things... 3 wires were damaged and black, and there was a spot on the frame that had a bit of corrosion / black burned marks where it was shorting..... I insulated all the cables, put the fuse back in, insulated the frame around where it made contact - took the sharp edge off and covered with tape...

Works like a charm!!!

Thanks for your help with this one.

-Minja


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