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eXtremeJobber 05-01-2005 03:16 PM

Window Tinting???
 
I called a place for window tinting, and he said he doesn't tint Ion's due to some complication with the glass? Can anyone tell me what that problem is, and tell me if it is worth the time to get the windows tinted, and how much problems I will have.

washamur 05-01-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Call your dealership and tell them you want to get your windows tinted and they "should" mention the replacement of the trim / inserts. They come plastic, and need to be replaced w/ felt, or else will cause massive scratches on the tint.

Once they replace those, you tint shop should have no problems doing it.

hemken 05-01-2005 03:58 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
I just got my ion tinted 35% all around this week. It looks good and the place I went to didnt say anything differnt about it.

Garciavision 05-01-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
I recommend 3M tint which gives lifetime warranty. I t it worth spending a little more and have quality. I had my 1993 Toyota Corolla done for $120 but that was back in 1994

Bertillion 05-01-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
[QUOTE=washamur]Call your dealership and tell them you want to get your windows tinted and they "should" mention the replacement of the trim / inserts. They come plastic, and need to be replaced w/ felt, or else will cause massive scratches on the tint.

Once they replace those, you tint shop should have no problems doing it.[/QUOTE]

Washamur is correct. I had my done for about $130 two years ago. Not sure what it would cost today.

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jmettee 05-01-2005 09:23 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Yeah, definitely have the window swipes replaced first. I did, then got tinted about a year ago. No scratched yet.

J

bc3tech 05-01-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
The tinting shop here never said anything about issues with the Ion and tinting. I got 5% on my back 3 and 20% on the front two and haven't seen anything w/ them yet - got this done about a month ago now and have been using the windows quite a bit with no issues so I'm not sure what your place was referring to at all.

jmettee 05-01-2005 10:21 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
[QUOTE=bc3tech]The tinting shop here never said anything about issues with the Ion and tinting. I got 5% on my back 3 and 20% on the front two and haven't seen anything w/ them yet - got this done about a month ago now and have been using the windows quite a bit with no issues so I'm not sure what your place was referring to at all.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't expect the tint installer to necessarily know about an item like this....it's unique to the car.

If I were you, I'd get to your dealer before scratched actually start showing up on your tint. Otherwise, after a few more months, you'll have to get re-tinted or live with the scratches.

J

bc3tech 05-02-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Alrighty then, does this operation come for free from the dealership or should I expect to shell out more to have this done?

jmettee 05-02-2005 03:11 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
[QUOTE=bc3tech]Alrighty then, does this operation come for free from the dealership or should I expect to shell out more to have this done?[/QUOTE]

Most likely you'll have to pay since it is something that is only needed if you tint the windows (not a defect from the factory).

It'll set you back about $120 parts & labor if I recall.

J

washamur 05-02-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
That's crap, there's NO WAY I would pay for this to be done.

Whether you were "planning" to have them tinted, or not -- Saturn should fix this under warranty. They put the plastic seals in, they KNOW it causes scratches w/ tinting, they should replace w/ felt seals at [b]NO CHARGE[/b]!

I wouldn't get an attitude w/ them, but certainly make it know that these parts were installed on the car before buying, and they need to be fixed.

Bertillion 05-02-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Actually you might be able to get it done for free depending on your state. I know in MD you are legally allowed to get your front windows tinted. There is a TSB out on this.

03-08-64-038

2003 & 2004

Aftermarket window tinting on side windows becomes scratched or torn.

Replace inner side window seal strips with new strips using a flocked design instead of Teflon.

Call your dealer and they might do it for free. I am positive members on here have gotten it done for free in the past. It varies from state to state though because of laws associated with window tinting. It's worth a try.

eXtremeJobber 05-03-2005 06:12 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Okay, I called Saturn of Greenwood, Indiana today. I told them some tinting places refused to do it. They said they were basically full of it, and to go ahead and get it done, then if there was problems, to get a direct quote from them saying it is a Saturn defect.

SLAPSHOT 05-03-2005 06:54 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
[QUOTE=washamur]Call your dealership and tell them you want to get your windows tinted and they "should" mention the replacement of the trim / inserts. They come plastic, and need to be replaced w/ felt, or else will cause massive scratches on the tint.

Once they replace those, you tint shop should have no problems doing it.[/QUOTE]

I guess Saturn fixed this on the 2005's. I checked my ION 1, and it has the felt, like in Bertillion's picture.

eXtremeJobber 05-03-2005 10:19 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Can anyone confirm if it is just on the older models? I have a 2005 also. The guy at Saturn said it is common for the Vue's, but not the Ion's.

bc3tech 05-04-2005 11:06 AM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
I just got off the phone with saturn corporate customer service. After giving them my name they pulled up my car and whatnot, checked on the TSB that was posted by Bertillion (thanks) and said it does affect my car. Since I bought the car in October it's under warranty so shouldn't cost me anything. They did, however, tell me this isn't something that would just be fixed for free if I went in and asked for it. They made it sound like they can only fix this if it causes problems - in other words after the damage is done. I think this is completely ridiculous! I'm going to my dealership tonight and am going to demand they fix this now as it WILL cause problems as documented by the TSB! What the hell kind of service is it if they only fix a known problem after it's done the damage?

SLAPSHOT 05-05-2005 10:58 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
[QUOTE=eXtremeJobber]Can anyone confirm if it is just on the older models? I have a 2005 also. The guy at Saturn said it is common for the Vue's, but not the Ion's.[/QUOTE]

Just go out to your car and take a look. I'll bet you a coke yours has the felt!

eXtremeJobber 05-05-2005 11:02 PM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
Where exactly do I check? That's what I'm confused about.

bc3tech 05-06-2005 10:41 AM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
I looked closely at mine yesterday. As near as I can tell i have the felt on the outside seal and the teflon on the inside. since aftermarket tinting is done on the inside, this is why scratches would appear. If you want to affirm this on your Ion, roll your window down all the way, stick your finger down in between the seals. I'll bet you feel felt on the outside seal and a rough, rubbery material that's a little slippery or greasy feeling (teflon) on the inner seal.

JDRedline 05-06-2005 10:57 AM

Re: Window Tinting???
 
[QUOTE=bc3tech]... They made it sound like they can only fix this if it causes problems - in other words after the damage is done. I think this is completely ridiculous! I'm going to my dealership tonight and am going to demand they fix this now as it WILL cause problems as documented by the TSB! What the hell kind of service is it if they only fix a known problem after it's done the damage?[/QUOTE]

I don't think this sounds ridiculous at all. If it's not broken, why fix it?

You said you've had your tinting done for about a month now with no scratches. If you've been reading up on this issue, you'd know that the scratching begins shortly after installation. It doesn't sound like yours is going to be a problem.

If it does become a problem, then you still have Saturn to fix it.


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