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Dsaturn 12-02-2019 08:09 AM

Spam
 
I love this Forum, It has helped me tremendously with my L200 repairs. But IMO The Forum needs another or more Moderators to clear and keep this crappy spam off of it. I understand Charlie is a busy man and can not get to it all but this spam makes the Forum look bad to new members that might see it and say I will not be part of that kind of Forum. Charlie, If you read this I am retired and I am The admin and mod of other Forums. If you need help just ask, I am sure there are many people on here that would be glad to help. :usa:

SC2Sick 12-02-2019 12:00 PM

Re: Spam
 
Maybe patching vbulletin to a version not out of date by 2 years would help as well. There are some anti-spam features...

Dsaturn 12-06-2019 08:45 AM

Re: Spam
 
This is getting out of hand. I was going to donate to the forum but all this spam is just making the forum look like a spam only site. Yes I know I can choose not to be on here but this Forum has all the best knowledgeable people of all the Saturn forums. :(

pierrot 12-08-2019 12:44 PM

Re: Spam
 
[FONT="Palatino Linotype"][SIZE="3"]I have no knowledge of what kinds of tools exist for a web-host to control or block spam ads. I certainly agree that if this web-host's site is out of date relative to such features then they need to take care of that. We members have the ability to anonymously flag spam messages by clicking on the exclamation point [[B][COLOR="blud"]![/COLOR][/B]] at the bottom left of the message box. (I've been doing this many times lately. It helps us keep SaturnFans clean of this junk.)

[I][U]What I do know[/U][/I] is that this most recent number of spam attacks is nothing new here at SaturnFans. What's actually been unusual is how many years it's been since the site has been hit like this - about four years or more to the best of my recollection. So while this is a major irritant for all of us please recall that "this, too, shall pass."
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focusofheart 12-08-2019 02:53 PM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=pierrot;2311477][FONT="Palatino Linotype"][SIZE="3"] ...So while this is a major irritant for all of us please recall that "this, too, shall pass."
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I have started treating this forum's spam like a child having a tantrum in a store - just walk away and continue shopping.

I get far too much insight and information on this forum to do less than tolerate it. :angel:

fdryer 12-08-2019 06:46 PM

Re: Spam
 
It's better and maybe wiser to report spam using the exclamation box in the offender's name box to silently report it to Charlie the Admin. He does act on it but hasn't recently. Patience rather than posting a reply in the spammer's post to push spam up to the top of the forum list. Ignoring spam simply drops it down the list to eventually go away as long as everyone refrains from posting their displeasure in each spam thread. Posting displeasure in any spam thread automatically pushes the ad to the top of the forum list for more free advertising. Many have refrained and it shows as hardly anyone responds after reading/translating ads and spam. The most offensive posts are the blatant ads for illegal currency with anyone seriously interested in undermining America's monetary system by flooding the planet with false paper currency. The same applies to foreign currency to undermine other nations. Who knows as I already pm'd Charlie about it and wonder if this is a FBI/CIA/Secret Service attempt to bait anyone under false pretenses............

Dsaturn 12-09-2019 08:10 AM

Re: Spam
 
I do report it and after your advise not to reply to it I do not. Like I said, I understand Charlie is very busy but could add mods to help out.
I met a new to Saturn driver the other day and suggested this site. He said he already looked at the site but all the spam turned him off.

02 LW300 12-09-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Spam
 
I pushed the exclamation point on one of the spam posts. Would reporting them all be any help? Probably not, I usually ignore and move on to what is interesting.

SC2Sick 12-09-2019 12:59 PM

Re: Spam
 
There are ways like akismet and stopforumspam service and honeypot IP checking but you have to install plugins, etc for them to function.

fdryer 12-09-2019 01:08 PM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=02 LW300;2311695]I pushed the exclamation point on one of the spam posts. Would reporting them all be any help? Probably not, I usually ignore and move on to what is interesting.[/QUOTE]
In the past when I used the exclamation box in the offenders name to silently report them to Charlie, he acted within a few days. This hasn't been the case recently. Never give up. Something worth fighting for against offensive practices needs everyone to consider negative outcomes if nothing is done.

onefunkar 12-09-2019 04:05 PM

Re: Spam
 
What do they even want? Itís not even readable. Pretty obvious

fdryer 12-09-2019 04:37 PM

Re: Spam
 
Google translation services. It works to translate the entire page.

I use my tablet and laptop. My Samsung tablet requires (I prefer Google) clicking the three dots lined up vertically, on the top right corner of the screen after opening the foreign language ad/spamt. In the list is 'translate'. My tablet opens a small window at the bottom of the screen with [B]English ~ English[/B] and more vertical dots. Clicking on the dots opens another box asking which way to translate. After some trial and error due to this not being friendly, Google translates the entire page (select Chinese to English) - the Chinese
page is translated, selling fake university documents. A similar setup with laptop (presuming the same for pc use) works a little differently to ask Google to translate the foreign language to English.

SC2Sick 12-09-2019 04:44 PM

Re: Spam
 
Part of the issue is that Saturnfans is running Vbulletin [B]version 3.8.9[/B]. The current version is [B]5.5.5[/B] .

goaliemo 12-09-2019 09:34 PM

Re: Spam
 
Clearly needs an update as sc2 said.

I can also volunteer to mod if help is needed.

Dsaturn 12-11-2019 08:31 AM

Re: Spam
 
Holly molly the board is just full of it today. Every forum has nothing but spam. Charlie you really need to get some help cleaning this **** up. :whoa::dazed:

SC2Sick 12-11-2019 11:07 AM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=Dsaturn;2315598]Charlie you really need to get some help cleaning this **** up. :whoa::dazed:[/QUOTE]

Or just modify things where the first post requires approval. It wasn't popular on 6S and people griped about their first post requiring approval but we also haven't permitted SPAM to go out to public either and have been able to do a great job of filtering it and keeping it off our site.

There's also features I mentioned like Akismet, etc. but with this amount of SPAM it's possibly happening via a SQL injection or other form of automation that the antiquated VB install is vulnerable to.

Then again I've stated exactly this several times over the years and it gets ignored so hopefully this board doesn't go the way of TSN and disappear with no backups in place.

alordofchaos 12-11-2019 02:36 PM

Re: Spam
 
I sent Charlie an email.

The "first post requires approval" works but suffers from the same issue that the current spammers aren't being removed - needs a human to do the work.

I don't have a lot of spare time but will be happy to ban spammers as well.

nice.hat 12-11-2019 05:07 PM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=Dsaturn;2311507]
I met a new to Saturn driver the other day and suggested this site. He said he already looked at the site but all the spam turned him off.[/QUOTE]

No kidding. I just reactivated my account today only to find the Ion forum totally trashed with spam posted in the past few hours. Not auspicious timing on my part! Until someone gets this forum under control, I really don't see the point in posting.

SC2Sick 12-11-2019 05:24 PM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=alordofchaos;2316256]I sent Charlie an email.

The "first post requires approval" works but suffers from the same issue that the current spammers aren't being removed - needs a human to do the work.

I don't have a lot of spare time but will be happy to ban spammers as well.[/QUOTE]

It requires less work than you'd think You can assign that permission within VB while not giving ANY other permissions like banning, etc to that same user.

So you could, for example, make it so that users over 2 years old registration, 100 posts, certain reputation score automatically are granted that ability to "approve" posts. I know this is the case because I've implemented it on a couple of different forums over the years, not just on 6S.

fdryer 12-11-2019 05:51 PM

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[QUOTE=nice.hat;2316619]No kidding. I just reactivated my account today only to find the Ion forum totally trashed with spam posted in the past few hours. Not auspicious timing on my part! Until someone gets this forum under control, I really don't see the point in posting.[/QUOTE]
Don't let spammers preventing posts. Just post a new thread. We're adult enough to wade past this.

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Re: Spam
 
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PaulGraz 12-13-2019 08:58 AM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=Dsaturn;2315598]Holly molly the board is just full of it today. Every forum has nothing but spam. Charlie you really need to get some help cleaning this **** up. :whoa::dazed:[/QUOTE]

I have run forums in the past, and still do - but not on vbulletin - I always used SMF (Simple Machines Forum). What we are seeing is spam bots. Could even be on someone's PC that has a virus/malware, and they don't even know it.

In SMF I used to block entire IP ranges when this happened, as it almost always was coming from overseas.

Unfortunately, these bots are posting more spam every minute. The longer it takes Charlie to respond, the more of a mess it is to clean up. I've seen forums go away forever because of this type of situation, I hope that doesn't happen here.

Add me to the list of people willing to donate time to help clean up.

Dsaturn 12-13-2019 11:58 AM

Re: Spam
 
Charlie I do not know why you do not want help but as the previous poster said if we can not get this cleaned up it will get worse. I love this forum, I am also on other Saturn forums but hardly ever visit them because all the real knowledgeable people are on here.

goaliemo 12-14-2019 04:15 AM

Re: Spam
 
[QUOTE=Dsaturn;2323526]Charlie I do not know why you do not want help but as the previous poster said if we can not get this cleaned up it will get worse. I love this forum, I am also on other Saturn forums but hardly ever visit them because all the real knowledgeable people are on here.[/QUOTE]

I've been using saturn forum more lately because of the spam. Been a long time user there.
Theres a handful of people and each has a specialty amongst the brand

sc2 saturn 12-16-2019 05:00 AM

Re: Spam
 
update would help or verification box (like it was posted in previous messages) but i think the fans who have higher ranks ( posting ranks or longest time member) should have rights to mute/temp ban people who spam like what we are going through now, been charlie is working and trying to monitor this forum isn't easy it would make it easier on him and make the forum easier to find helpful posts

and it wouldn't take much to make a (mod account that has access to mute option or ban option only) i use to make them on other fourm sites for that type of reason and it was for a game too

fdryer 12-17-2019 11:25 PM

Re: Spam
 
The garbage piling up recently has been removed.......:usa:

Charlie 12-18-2019 02:02 AM

Re: Spam
 
Hi everyone,

I'm sorry for my delayed response to the spam attacks. I'm on a project that's finally wrapping up and it's kept me from my normal routine. I like the idea of having you all help get rid of spam I have some ideas on how to implement that too. I'm upgrading the site to a new server in the next month, and I while I'm tinkering that's when I'll add the capability. I appreciate everyone's offer to help!!!

Thanks,
Charlie


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