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HyperCube33 03-22-2007 03:07 PM

Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
Hi - my first post on here, shame it had to be newbish :hmm: -
I've never undertaken the process of removing the front hub assembly on any car, let alone my SC2's.

I'm lacking in any real tools for this job and was wondering if I need anything out of the ordinary (a list of tools would be the best, as I can just make sure I have everything before I drive 30 minutes to my parents, where I can take my car apart and hopefully not realize that I'm needing some special tool for the job.

I plan on taking the hub to saturn to get new bearings pressed in, so I dont believe I need any thing for such a task.

Much appreciated,
Brian

v3rs3 03-22-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
If you are just pulling the hub, then all you need is a 19mm to take the wheel off, an 18mm for the ball joint nut, 18mm socket and rachet for the tie rod end, I believe a 21mm socket for the strut bolts, then a 14mm and a 18mm for the brake caliper and bracket.

If you plan to press it out yourself you'll need a set of C-clip pliers and a press.

BobbyP 03-22-2007 03:50 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
??? Don't they sell the bearing with the lug ass'y attached? I never had to deal with pressing out the individual bearings on any of my GM FWD cars.

madpogue 03-22-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
Waitaminit -- don't you also need a 30mm (and a bigeffin' breaker bar) for the "big nut" on the driveshaft?

amazinghl 03-22-2007 05:30 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
You'll need a breaker bar and 30mm socket.

westwind999 03-22-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
I'll add a ball joint separator and pliers to pull out the cotter pins(probably should be replaced with new ones). I think the strut bolts were 18 or 19.

I think the bearings are separate because of the order they are assembled. I don't think there is a knuckle assembly available with all the parts pressed in.

SonnyD 03-22-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
You can buy the whole hub assembly complete, and it's ready to go, for about 80.00. Don't need to have anything pressed in on those. This one is for your 97 SC2

[url]http://www.napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=BRG&PartNumber=BR930156K&Description=Hub+Assy+Kit+-+Front+Wheel[/url]

Regards Sonny

westwind999 03-22-2007 09:07 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
That looks like the box of parts my store showed me. Nothing was pressed together. The 3rd part not shown is the knuckle and I pressed the bearing into it first and then the hub into that assembly(hense the parts being separate). I would have bought that assembly if I could get it already pressed in.

Someone mentioned that the hub kit is for someone who keeps driving with the bad bearing and then ruins the hub. Perhaps if the bearing seizes and the hub spins on the inside race.

djjsc 10-26-2014 12:11 PM

Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
The link in post 7 is dead. Found an EXCELLENT Saturn specific how-to here:

[COLOR="blue"][U][B][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReSeiAadnic[/url][/B][/U][/COLOR]

slapshot 11 10-26-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
The nuts on my 1999 SL1 for the tie rod end and lower ball joint both require a 16MM wrench.

t-daddy 11-02-2014 03:27 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
You can buy the complete already pressed in assembly for the rear wheels, but the front wheel bearings (and the spindle) have to be pressed in

CM400T 11-19-2014 07:43 AM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
Thanks T-daddy ! Should I do both sides at once? (I'm the only owner, 125K miles on it.)

(I'm hearing the same sound as my old FWD Cutlass Ciera had years ago, so I suspect the bearing is out of lube, or otherwise going to fail on the Saturn.)

Sorry I haven't posted for years, the car is just so darn reliable.

Highmile 11-19-2014 09:03 AM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
[QUOTE=BobbyP;1024258]??? Don't they sell the bearing with the lug ass'y attached? I never had to deal with pressing out the individual bearings on any of my GM FWD cars.[/QUOTE]

Correct. The normal GM hub assy in a good quailty can run well over $100 where as the Saturn bearing that has to be pressed in/out can be had for less than $40.

With the number of times I've replaced mine in well over 1/2 million miles I'll take the saturn set-up over the std GM set-up anytime.

i've installed 3 bearings, 1 drivers and 2 passengers. The first passengers side lasted less than a year, second is still going strong.

I've yet to get north of 150k and the std gm hubs.

Highmile
'95 SL1 557k and counting

CM400T 12-10-2014 07:33 AM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
Should I replace all four? I'm the original owner, it has 125k on it.

How much notice would I get when one is about to fail? How much longer could the rears last?

Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm working a TON of hours at my job and I sure can't drive the motorcycle in winter cold and snow !

Please let me know what you all think, thanks !

billr 12-10-2014 07:40 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
I only change them as they go bad, never "just because". They give a [I]lot[/I] of advance warning, like many thousands of miles; and I think the noise/vibration would become intolerable long before the car became undriveable. Yeah, the rears should last longer, and are also easier to change, but more expensive as you [I]have[/I] to change the bearing and hub; can't do the bearing alone.

MikeNW 12-10-2014 08:49 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
I replaced my front bearings a couple of years ago, one was making some noise so I did both just because I had to go to the guy with the press anyway.

The back ones are still good, at 177K+ miles.

I think bearing life depends a lot on weather- harsh salt belt winters seem to kill all parts including bearings. My car is a sun belt car :) Also the degree of difficulty to get everything apart is related to tons of salt on the roads.

Cruzer32 12-12-2014 11:55 AM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
A pitman arm puller is very handy for separating the ball joint and tie rod end (without goobering up the rubber boot).

Loosen the nut, leaving it on a few threads, snug up the puller, shock with a ballpein hammer.

I separate the knuckle from the balljoint last (after removing caliper bracket and rotor). Axle nut first, tie rod end next, then strut, take a long pry bar and fit between subrame and lower control arm, pry down and slide out axle shaft, spin knuckle around and use pitman arm puller to pop the balljoint. Voila...knuckle assembly is in your hands.

BLKSATSC2 12-31-2014 02:28 PM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
Just did this today. And would like to say it was very easy. One note. The pitman arm puller is a great tool. Like the previous post suggest. It saves the boots. And also it makes it a lot easier when doing either side or just 1. Raise both sides together. It make getting the strut out much easier.
I also pull the 2 18mm bolts out and remove caliper and bracket as one unit. It saves time. If you are doing pads then separate of course.
I bought bearings and hubs for the 2 fronts at Detroit Axle. I have used them on my 3800 powered GM cars with great service. Fast shipping. Great to deal with if any issues. I paid around $45 for all. included shipping. some may say the quality is not good at that price, but I am saying that they have served me well in other applications. I buy from them via ebay and paypal.

slapshot 11 01-01-2015 10:07 AM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
My cousin had a very bad experience with Detroit Axle, he has an older 4WD Chev Suburban and bought front wheel bearings from DA and it went bad in a week. They sent him another one promptly and had the same result. He replaced that one with a quality part and its been good ever since. We're not that far from Detroit, BTW.

BLKSATSC2 01-01-2015 11:27 AM

Re: Replacing Front Wheel Bearing
 
[QUOTE=slapshot 11;2112816]My cousin had a very bad experience with Detroit Axle, he has an older 4WD Chev Suburban and bought front wheel bearings from DA and it went bad in a week. They sent him another one promptly and had the same result. He replaced that one with a quality part and its been good ever since. We're not that far from Detroit, BTW.[/QUOTE]

I understand. I just know how they have done for me. I know I was a fan of GNB water pumps. On a Honda Accord I had to replace 2 due to leaking within a few months. I know it was a pain to keep changing pumps like that.
But sometimes strange things do happen.

Also wanted to add there are some threads that use a slide hammer in removing the hub from the bearing. That is not a issue at all not to have that. It will come out with the bearing just fine once you remove the spindle from the car. Real no need to have that.


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