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Tom S2 02-23-2011 11:46 PM

Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine rat
 
Got this from the February 2011 GM Tech Links [url]http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2011/02/[/url]

Model Year
2008-2011
Vehicle Line / Condition
Astra, Aveo, Cruze, Wave - Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine rattle noise
Do This
Remove the oil filters from the camshaft position actuator solenoid valves
Don't Do This
Don't replace the camshaft position actuator solenoid valves
Reference Information / Bulletin Number
10-06-04-016

MGGDTW 02-24-2011 01:33 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=Tom S2;1715586]Got this from the February 2011 GM Tech Links [url]http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2011/02/[/url]

Model Year
2008-2011
Vehicle Line / Condition
Astra, Aveo, Cruze, Wave - Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine rattle noise
Do This
Remove the oil filters from the camshaft position actuator solenoid valves
Don't Do This
Don't replace the camshaft position actuator solenoid valves
Reference Information / Bulletin Number
10-06-04-016[/QUOTE]


Interesting... I have the engine rattle noise but am not experiencing any power-loss issues. So I'm not too worried just yet. Should I?

I'm at 19k miles.

ReGZ_93 03-10-2011 02:02 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
I just had mu Astra in today, and the dealer performed this repair under warranty. I originally had a check engine light come on last Sunday, and it went off yesterday, but the codes were still stored.

The car is running much better now. There is no dead spot (hesitation to rev) between 2200 and 4000 rpm, like I had before. The engine revs freely all the way to red line now.

ilvtofu 03-12-2011 06:12 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
Has anyone noticed hesitation while idling? as if the alternator was going/car stalling, my car occasionally (maybe once every 2 months) does this. haven't really noticed any issues though, it drops for a split second then comes back up.

darek_dade 03-14-2011 03:47 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=ilvtofu;1720946]Has anyone noticed hesitation while idling? as if the alternator was going/car stalling, my car occasionally (maybe once every 2 months) does this. haven't really noticed any issues though, it drops for a split second then comes back up.[/QUOTE]

I get it from time to time too...

emg77 03-14-2011 06:48 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=ilvtofu;1720946]Has anyone noticed hesitation while idling? as if the alternator was going/car stalling, my car occasionally (maybe once every 2 months) does this. haven't really noticed any issues though, it drops for a split second then comes back up.[/QUOTE]

Yes, me too. I remember this coming up in a thread, and there are quite a few people that experience the little near stall and recovery every couple of months.

tackepj 03-14-2011 11:30 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
Yes, and more often than I used to. Approach a traffic light, clutch in, and there's a brief stumble that feels as if it's about to stall (but it never does). Can this be related?

ReGZ_93 03-17-2011 10:40 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=tackepj;1721643]Yes, and more often than I used to. Approach a traffic light, clutch in, and there's a brief stumble that feels as if it's about to stall (but it never does). Can this be related?[/QUOTE]

My car was doing that before I took it into the dealer. It would feel like it was about to stumble and had hesitant acceleration after clutching out.

Now that they made the fix, my car feels better than new.

goob 06-02-2011 11:37 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
My check engine came on today, Onstar says the code is P0011.
I had the same code last March and at that time my dealer replaced the camshaft positioner sensor. The techlink mentioned in the first post says not to replace this, but "Remove the oil filters from the camshaft position actuator solenoid valves". What exactly does this mean? Do they put new oil filters in?

goob 06-03-2011 12:06 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
Forgot to mention, car sounds like a diesel at idle and I notice there acceleration is a bit sluggish.

iufan87 08-26-2011 07:28 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
Have the p0014 code. Can anyone help with a pic or description of the location of the camshaft position actuator solenoid oil filters. Is the removal of these oil filters a simple procedure? thanks

danger d 08-29-2011 06:21 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
I have a check engine light since 2 days and the car lacks of power between 2000 and 4500 rpm.How do we clean those camshaft position actuator solenoid valves filters?

danger d 09-01-2011 09:49 PM

They just did that repair and they charged me 62$.its not covered by the powertrain warranty.i will call gm canada to know why its not covered by the 160000 km warranty.its a really easy repair to do.Only remove the two cam actuator and remove the 2 orange screen/filters.torque the bolt to 53 inch/pound or 8 newton-meter.20minutes and you are done.

Lunchbox1984 09-02-2011 07:00 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=danger d;1787514]They just did that repair and they charged me 62$.its not covered by the powertrain warranty.i will call gm canada to know why its not covered by the 160000 km warranty.its a really easy repair to do.Only remove the two cam actuator and remove the 2 orange screen/filters.torque the bolt to 53 inch/pound or 8 newton-meter.20minutes and you are done.[/QUOTE]

Bro, they shouldnt have charged you on that repair, if your car is still under warranty, that should have been covered, i just had both of mine replaced and it was covered. So, yea i would call up and tell them what happen. good luck.

danger d 09-02-2011 07:14 AM

[QUOTE=Lunchbox1984;1787622]Bro, they shouldnt have charged you on that repair, if your car is still under warranty, that should have been covered, i just had both of mine replaced and it was covered. So, yea i would call up and tell them what happen. good luck.[/QUOTE]

Did they covered it under the powertrain warranty or the bumper to bumper 3years60000 km?

wandern 09-27-2011 04:18 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=danger d;1787623]Did they covered it under the powertrain warranty or the bumper to bumper 3years60000 km?[/QUOTE]

Powertrain. I had my filters removed under warranty with 99,600 miles on the odometer.

AdAstra 10-11-2011 03:02 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
Will they do this repair without the check engine light/codes? My engine is very rattly and has very uneven power output/acceleration... but the check engine light has never come on.

Gerry Proctor 10-12-2011 08:38 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=AdAstra;1800865]Will they do this repair without the check engine light/codes? [/QUOTE]

Sure, but without a CEL, you'll have to pay for the repair. They can't repair a vehicle that isn't broken and get reimbursed for a warranty claim. If you have the fault, it will set the CEL.

wandern 10-12-2011 09:00 AM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
[QUOTE=AdAstra;1800865]Will they do this repair without the check engine light/codes? My engine is very rattly and has very uneven power output/acceleration... but the check engine light has never come on.[/QUOTE]

The code may be set even though you've never seen the CEL light come on. You'll have to either bring it in (taking a chance on paying diagnostic charges in case there are not any codes set) or buy/borrow an OBDC II code reader and see for yourself if there are any codes set.

kikastra 12-29-2011 09:16 PM

Re: Engine lack of power with DTCs P0011, P0014, P000A, P000B, P0012, P0015 or engine
 
My CEL had come on and off, for about a month leading up to last week. I also noticed that the car would stumble sometimes on acceleration, and the near stall, upon press the clutch near a dead stop. So last Friday the light had been on for a week, and I got OnStar to give me the code, which was P000A. Brought it in to the local GM dealer yesterday, and the tech did whatever as per the TSB (replaced cam shaft actuator filters or something, I don't have the work order handy). It was done under warranty, I still have the bumper to bumper, but I assume it would be covered under power-train warranty. It runs a lot smoother now, doesn't hesitate when accelerating through 2500 rpms, and doesn't stutter when I disengage the clutch. Fuel mileage "seems" to be a little better as well, but I'll need to give it more time to find that out for sure.

On a side note, the guy tried to sell me on throttle body cleaning. He tried to tell me that there were also codes stored related to that, and that it was required after 30,000kms, and mine had not been done yet. First of all my car only has 26,0000kms on it. $69 plus tax. I said thanks, but no thanks. He tried to tell me that the CEL might come back on as a result of my refusal. Sheesh. Everything at the dealer was a positive experience until they pulled that little stunt. Anything to make a buck I guess, but it really leaves a sour taste in my mouth. This was City Buick in Toronto, BTW.


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