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TibTuner02 05-01-2005 12:24 AM

timing belt?
 
anybody got any idea what it will cost to replace the timing belt on a 93 sc2? 1.9L DOHC? i believe that is what is wrong with the car. runs very sluggish feels like its chugging at idle and is very had to get moving. more so then usual :p thanks for your help



mac

eRic 02sc2 05-01-2005 12:36 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
The 1.9L doesn't have a timing belt. It has a timing chain that requires removing the cam cover and front cover to replace. Now the serpentine belt is easy to replace without taking anything apart. Use a 14mm wrench on the tensioner.

TibTuner02 05-01-2005 12:38 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
chain belt whatever....timing assembly drive. approx cost??

Nowhere Man 05-01-2005 12:42 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
For the entire kit from saturn, its $200. This includes new guides, tensioner, redesigned oil pump cover, and of course the chain.

TibTuner02 05-01-2005 12:50 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
is that installed or just the kit for a DIY? thanks



mac

Nowhere Man 05-01-2005 01:40 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
As quoted by my local dealer, its $800 including parts for a timing chain job.

TibTuner02 05-01-2005 02:15 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=Nowhere Man]As quoted by my local dealer, its $800 including parts for a timing chain job.[/QUOTE]



damn thats almost as much as i bought the car for...wtf

Dimundave911 05-01-2005 02:40 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
Its mostly labor. It takes time to do that job, Its time consuming when the engine is in the car. They charge labor based on the # of hours it should take to complete the job (not how long it actually takes for the tech to do it). Thats why they know how much to charge you before they do the work. I forget how many hours labor they charge... is it 5?

OhioVueBoy 05-01-2005 02:45 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=TibTuner02]anybody got any idea what it will cost to replace the timing belt on a 93 sc2? 1.9L DOHC? i believe that is what is wrong with the car. runs very sluggish feels like its chugging at idle and is very had to get moving. more so then usual :p thanks for your help
[/QUOTE]
So.. have you had an actual tech diagnose the car, or are you just going to throw parts at it?
~D.J.~

TibTuner02 05-01-2005 03:33 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=OhioVueBoy]So.. have you had an actual tech diagnose the car, or are you just going to throw parts at it?
~D.J.~[/QUOTE]



had a tech....not saturn.......that lives down the block drive the car. obvoiusly gonna have it diagnosed but this was the more costly option. just trying to get a feel for what im looking at here.

TibTuner02 05-01-2005 03:34 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=TibTuner02]had a tech....not saturn.......that lives down the block drive the car. obvoiusly gonna have it diagnosed but this was the more costly option. just trying to get a feel for what im looking at here.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Dimundave911]Its mostly labor. It takes time to do that job, Its time consuming when the engine is in the car. They charge labor based on the # of hours it should take to complete the job (not how long it actually takes for the tech to do it). Thats why they know how much to charge you before they do the work. I forget how many hours labor they charge... is it 5?[/QUOTE]

yea i know that. 600$ in labor it must be more then 5 hours. 7ish maybe 8 sounds closer.

OhioVueBoy 05-01-2005 09:51 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=TibTuner02]had a tech....not saturn.......that lives down the block drive the car. obvoiusly gonna have it diagnosed but this was the more costly option. just trying to get a feel for what im looking at here.[/QUOTE]
To be honest... you are going to save money in the long run if you just take it to a Saturn dealer for a diagnostic. Noone knows these cars better than the techs at a retailer... and they have some strange issues. This could be a simple sensor (ECTS) or such.
Spend the $$$ for a diagnostic at a Saturn retailer - it just may save you a lot in the long run.
~D.J.~

Derwood3285 05-01-2005 08:44 PM

Re: timing belt?
 
If your timing was off you'd be misfiring, running rich\lean, and there would be a lot more problems than it running sluggish, etc.

Start with simplicity and move your way on up the chain. Run some injector cleaner through with your next tank of gas, change your fuel filter, do a tune up, clean up your contacts on your coil packs, reset your ECU... just go through and do the cheap stuff first before you go through and try and do a 200 dollar and two day job. It's just not worth the hassel if it's not going to fix the problem...

By the by- if you're worried your chain jumped teeth... take your cam cover off, take a look at the sprockets for any signs of chipping, bent teeth, etc. A chain jumping teeth will cause some serious damage to the sprockets. Also, take a ruler and check how the cams line up... if the chain has stretched at all and allowed for your car to get out of time, then it'll show by none of the sprocket arms lining up.

Low Saturn 05-02-2005 01:03 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=OhioVueBoy]Noone knows these cars better than the techs at a retailer...
~D.J.~[/QUOTE]

Hehe.. Wow...

BobL 05-02-2005 08:44 AM

Re: timing belt?
 
If the timing chain goes, your engine is toast since the valves will kiss the pistons.

Sound of bad chain is easy for a good tech to diagnose. This is a serious problem that, if present, needs to be fixed at once.

I second the recommendation that you run it by a dealer for diagnosis. May not be timing chain at all.

OhioVueBoy 05-02-2005 12:32 PM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=Low Saturn]Hehe.. Wow...[/QUOTE]
Yes?
~D.J.~

tksaturn 05-02-2005 12:45 PM

Re: timing belt?
 
If you consider getting the work done at the dealer, remember this: Most dealers will waive the diagnostic fee if you have the work done there. I know my retailer does. That way, you'll get it done right the first time. :us:

effsatty07 05-02-2005 12:45 PM

Re: timing belt?
 
yea its a timing chain, but either way you are in deep S**T :dazed: ...... i had the same problem with my 1997 SC..... they said i was really lucky to be getting it fixed then, or i would have had to get a new engine! so..... all together it cost $500 but they flushed my engine and changed the oil,..... but then agian your is a 93 so it might be more than mine! AND PLUS, if it is your timing chain it would be hard to get it started, the timing of the engine will be off and it will sound off too, and you can hear it coming from the belt area (at least thats how mine was) but if i were you i would go to a shop or a Saturn dealership and get it looked at before it breaks (if it is that) then you would have to get a whole new engine! so GOOD LUCK with all that! :)

Kat*
1997 SC1 *Midnight Dreamer*

Low Saturn 05-02-2005 12:52 PM

Re: timing belt?
 
[QUOTE=OhioVueBoy]Yes?
~D.J.~[/QUOTE]


I was just laughing at the comment how Saturn tech's know these cars better than anyone. I can't count how many times I've showed one how to repair or remove something. Or heard unbelievable things come out of their mouths.

Im sure there are some good ones out there. I just haven't meet one yet.

tksaturn 05-02-2005 12:57 PM

Re: timing belt?
 
You just haven't met one in California. I have worked for retailers in Georgia and South Carolina and the best techs I've worked with have been at Saturn dealers. Bar none. :us:


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