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Charlie 01-28-2008 01:33 AM

Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
Are there E85 fueling stations near you? If not, do you know how far away the closest station is from where you live? Is "flex-fuel" capability something you will look for in your next car?

Post your thoughts.

Thanks,
Charlie

SL2sleeper 01-28-2008 04:27 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
WOW this is a really great topic more for people who use any sort of alternative fuel source.

The only alternative fuel source I can account for via any public distribution is a natural gas station.

If you have a Diesel vehicle then you should I would hope know already about what other alternatives you have available other than pump stuff. It really isn't hard too blend what you already use for your DD or other vehicles.

oh and hey too all it has been a bit since i have posted over here LOL.

Legs 01-28-2008 08:22 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
Hi,

I live in Montreal, Qc, Canada... In the province of Quebec, there is nearly no E85 facility !!!

I would have to drive to Ontario in order to fill up with E85. This would represent about 100 miles (160 km)!
It would also represent a minimum of a one hour drive with my Vue (Locked at 162 km/h) !

No I will definitely not look at buying a E85 vehicle... but my next one could be the Hybrid Vue wich I test drove last year and was able to push it to 177 Km/h (about 110 Mph) !!! to my great surprise... I guess they have not figured out how to lock this one...
This Hybrid Vue was also very good on fuel... Too bad they don't make it with a Manual tranny.

Steph.

bc3tech 01-28-2008 10:55 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
i was downright surprised to walk into a chevy dealer this weekend to see a new malibu and see a Flex Fuel [U]impala[/U] right next to it in the showroom, but no flex fuel Malibu, and certainly no flex fuel Aura.... how does this make sense, GM?

If you want to talk about E85 and pushing flex fuel vehicles and ethanol distribution, you need to walk the walk and make [U]all[/U] of your vehicles flex fuel capable! If the Aura had come in a flex fuel trim, you can bet your @$$ i'd own one.

Signmaster 01-28-2008 11:36 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=Charlie;1192009]Are there E85 fueling stations near you? If not, do you know how far away the closest station is from where you live? Is "flex-fuel" capability something you will look for in your next car?

Post your thoughts.

Thanks,
Charlie[/QUOTE]


I don't know of any within 100 miles. If they exist I haven't seen them.

I won't be looking into flex fuel vehicles at all, I think it's simply a short and poor short term bandaid for a bigger problem. If we're going to change industry and infrastructure, the only way to bring demand up enough to do so is with long term solutions.

If hydrogen was the "flex fuel" and it was becoming available, I'd seriously consider it.





Legs,

I'm often boggled why they would design a car to be more fuel efficient, yet not offer it with the most efficient drivetrain combinations. For that matter, they don't even do what are common sense fuel improving things often.

davidsky 01-28-2008 07:36 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
The closest E85 station is 75 miles from me. BioDiesel is available about 30 miles away.
Yes I would buy the FlexFuel version of a car I would buy. There really isn't all that much right now.
American design
American made
Union made
Flex Fuel
Shouldn't be too hard, right?

davidsky 01-28-2008 07:45 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=bc3tech;1192114]
If you want to talk about E85 and pushing flex fuel vehicles and ethanol distribution, you need to walk the walk and make [U]all[/U] of your vehicles flex fuel capable! If the Aura had come in a flex fuel trim, you can bet your @$$ i'd own one.[/QUOTE]

I'd agree with you but I think too many E85 vehicles could tax the distribution system. So far almost all the E85 vehicles are fairly old engine designs. Usually OHV units.
If I lived in a strong E85 state I'd probably would have picked that Impala

hairymon 01-28-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
I don't know of any near me, but who knows, the NY metropolitan area is so big. I've heard that almost all of the E85 stations are in the Midwest though.

If the fuel were available, I'd love to have my vehicles in a flex fuel version.

eRic 02sc2 01-28-2008 10:33 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
there are a few E85 fuel stations in the Detroit area.
use this to locate them [url]http://afdcmap2.nrel.gov/locator/[/url]

Low Saturn 01-28-2008 11:00 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
Nearest one is 24 miles away. But I can buy race fuel at the pump 6 miles away.

virnin 01-29-2008 03:56 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
I have 6 of them between 10 and 30 miles from my house. Two of them are within 5 miles of work. They are the two I would use if I ever convert my '00 Silverado.

unkle bik 01-29-2008 08:33 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
I have yet to see any in Ohio...

mkuz13 01-29-2008 09:21 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
There are a few E85 stations that are 10 miles away from my home.Out here even E85 & bio-diesel plants are sprouting up (just like the corn in early summer:D )

I wouldnt plan on buying a new E85 vehicle but if I came across a cheap used car that was E85 compatible,I would think about buying it.

ToledoEngineer 01-29-2008 12:40 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
Yeah, I live in Northwest Ohio and we are a big corn-growing state so we see a lot of e-85. I'd say about half to two-thirds of the stations I've been to in the last year have had e-85. I've actually got probably a half dozen stations that sell it within 3 miles of my house. And I hardly ever see anyone pumping it into their cars. They might pull up to that pump, but they usually buy the regular gas.

I dont own a car that runs on it, or plan to buy one. It's about 25% cheaper (give or take) than regular gasoline, but you make up any differences in that e-85 is about 25% less efficient (give or take) than regular gasoline so it all works out about the same in the end anyway. You just think you buying cheaper gas and polluting less, so you feel good, when you really will have to fill up more often to drive the exact same distances.

davidsky 01-29-2008 01:06 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=shadowfax428;1192764]
I dont own a car that runs on it, or plan to buy one. It's about 25% cheaper (give or take) than regular gasoline, but you make up any differences in that e-85 is about 25% less efficient (give or take) than regular gasoline so it all works out about the same in the end anyway. You just think you buying cheaper gas and polluting less, so you feel good, when you really will have to fill up more often to drive the exact same distances.[/QUOTE]

The price does come out similar but you'd be buying fuel from your neighbors. You'd be keeping it local. It could help your community in the long run.

bc3tech 01-29-2008 01:37 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=davidsky;1192775]The price does come out similar but you'd be buying fuel from your neighbors. You'd be keeping it local. It could help your community in the long run.[/QUOTE]
ding ding ding! money to iraq or money to iowa, take your pick. :drool:

davidsky 01-29-2008 01:58 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=bc3tech;1192790]ding ding ding! money to iraq or money to iowa, take your pick. :drool:[/QUOTE]
Right, and I would expect someone living in Texas to buy gasoline.

bc3tech 01-31-2008 10:42 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=davidsky;1192805]Right, and I would expect someone living in Texas to buy gasoline.[/QUOTE]
like texas would actually put up e85 stations anyway?


on the subject,
[url]http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?p=116724#post116724[/url]
it appears that cars nowadays are e85 capable w/ the changing of injectors and a tune. so... as soon as an e85 epsilon on the 3.6L v6 comes out, consider my aura e85 :D

davidsky 01-31-2008 12:47 PM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=bc3tech;1193850]like texas would actually put up e85 stations anyway?


on the subject,
[url]http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?p=116724#post116724[/url]
it appears that cars nowadays are e85 capable w/ the changing of injectors and a tune. so... as soon as an e85 epsilon on the 3.6L v6 comes out, consider my aura e85 :D[/QUOTE]

I'd want my FlexFuel car to have a powertrain warranty. If I lived in an E85 state and had the money I think that would be as good a reason as any to get myself a new Sierra.

ToledoEngineer 02-01-2008 11:55 AM

Re: Are there any E85 fuel stations near you?
 
[QUOTE=davidsky;1192775]The price does come out similar but you'd be buying fuel from your neighbors. You'd be keeping it local. It could help your community in the long run.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, but just because it's produced locally doesn't mean it's distributed locally. I've interviewed with two Oil companies in the past (Marathon and SunOil) who both have refineries within 45 minutes of my house (as do BP and I think Shell). I had asked the guys at SunOil about their control on gas prices since it was expensive here even with a bunch of local refineries. And they stated something along the lines of the Oil they refine here in Ohio goes out West to the Plains States, and the Oil they refine out there comes this way. I think it had to do with keeping gas prices somewhat level across the country.

But yeah, I do agree that USA (or even North American) processed fuel would be a lot more appealing than foreign oil. But I'm not willing to switch just to have to go fill up every week (or less) when I'm currently filling up every week-and-a-half to two weeks. It's just a psychological thing for me. I feel that I spend less, when I spend less often. And knowing that i'll be spending more often is a deterant to change.


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