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fdryer 11-13-2019 08:34 PM

For those clueless about soldering....
 
I've used a simple soldering technique introduced years ago. A very small piece of thin solder similar to tiny bandages for small cuts about 3/8" X 1" wrapped around twisted bare (clean) wires and a match was useful for electrical soldering away from an ac outlet and soldering iron. Fast forward and we have portable butane torches with a soldering tip for complete portability in field repairs. This presumes most people are already familiar with basic soldering techniques. For the truly clueless and those not wanting to learn soldering, a new product may help and provide virtually a professional appearance after some trial and error period of experimenting. Be warned though. Soldering in any form still requires some semblance of clean copper wires for solder and rosin to flow and coat each bare wire of a twisted set before solder can adhere to provide electrical and mechanical strength.

This appeared on facebook and here's a link; [url]https://afrui.com/collections/hot-deals/products/waterproof-solder-wire-connectors-50pcs?fbclid=IwAR0CxyNythuu9i1VNVDZTMHAVungKlMDgiYO18vx7_Oz_Y-D3-JwFGJMAZU[/url]. The video should convince anyone that virtually everyone should be able to solder wires together and insulate the connection with shrink tubing. For auto repairs and tight spaces, this may be one of the best solutions for fast and easy soldering without needing skills other than flicking a Bic or striking a match. For those using fire, beware of nearby plastic rugs catching on fire. No torch is needed. This product appears to use a lower temperature melting point solder with rosin shaped into a small bushing covered in see thru shrink tubing.

alordofchaos 11-22-2019 04:06 PM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
Interesting.

May want to repost this in the S-series and other more general / model specific forums for exposure or post a link to this thread.

I note they recommend using a heat gun, no not as precise as a soldering iron. I suppose I would use a damp towel and aluminum foil to insulate things I don't' want to heat up.

SL2 Ride 11-25-2019 09:15 PM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
[QUOTE=alordofchaos;2310552]Interesting.

May want to repost this in the S-series and other more general / model specific forums for exposure or post a link to this thread.

I note they recommend using a heat gun, no not as precise as a soldering iron. I suppose I would use a damp towel and aluminum foil to insulate things I don't' want to heat up.[/QUOTE]
the heat guns they're talking about, are specific to soldering, and have a very small output hole size.
they're actually used quite a bit by electronics repairmen and assemblers as well.

SL2 Ride 11-25-2019 09:18 PM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
i've been a fan of soldering wires when i'm splicing something, particularly under the hood of a car. if I have good access to the wire, i'll sometimes put a coating of silicone over the soldered area instead of tape to help keep it from corroding.

TomM96 11-27-2019 01:52 AM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
Soldering, adhesive joints and good paint coating adhesion all require a clean surface. The acid flux or rosin flux are both cleaning agents ... best to start with a very clean/dry metal surface.

cleanliness is important for quality welds/brazing .... but in those cases the applied heat assists driving off garbage. Some 'maintenance' welding can be done on dirty/greasy surfaces, but the joint would not meet many quality specifications, because the garbage becomes part of the joint.

It helps to remove the residue of rosin flux after soldering (wait until cool), before sealing. I also oft use silicone RTV as a sealant, then coat with vinyl electrical tape for abrasion resistance.

alordofchaos 11-27-2019 01:35 PM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
[QUOTE=SL2 Ride;2310692]i'll sometimes put a coating of silicone over the soldered area instead of tape to help keep it from corroding.[/QUOTE]

That's a great idea! What do you use, and do you find that your silicone dries out in the container between uses?

Nothing worse than opening up a tube or tin of something, only to find that it has all dried out . . . and you end up making a trip to the store

velocast 12-25-2019 01:59 AM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
:)
Thanks for the INFO

I just got from Harbor Freight a Butane Mini Torch, from Walmart a can of Refill Butane, and from eBay Heat Shrink Wire Connectors.

In the center of the connector there is a low temperature solder sleeve that will melt down when heat is applied. In the connector extreme sides are melt adhesive compound that will seal waterproof the wires.

It all depends how good you apply! Make sure to start from the center. When you see the tin sleeve is melting down go to the rest of the connector. Heat will spread to the sides shrinking the tube.

IT IS WAY QUICKER THAN USING AN IRON SOLDER

:):):)

98_Gold_Uranus 01-02-2020 10:48 PM

Re: For those clueless about soldering....
 
I taught myself how to solder (with the help of YouTube) years ago when I got into hobby RC, and it's become an INVALUABLE skill when it comes to automotive repairs and modifications. Also helps around the house when you know you can fix random electrical what-not's when the power cord get's chaffed 6" from the device, you can just cut it off, open it up, and resolder the wires :D

I used a super cheap Radio Shack soldering iron for YEARS, then a couple Christmas's ago my wife bought me a NICE Weller unit. Like many other jobs, having the right tools definitely gives you better results.


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