Its Here !!! pics of the new 2008 Vue

[PontiacLvr]

new link...

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/12623

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/vuegrill.jpghttp://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/vue3.jpg

[TPFilm]

Looks decent... But gotta ask... What was wrong with the old body style? (let the flames begin...)

[montrealvue]

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/29/la-auto-show-2008-saturn-vue-unveiled/

There's the direct link.....

Not bad, better than the spy pics. I'd like to see what the other RL will look like.

[PontiacLvr]

more pics ...I so excited they kept the cool side markers from the antara

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/vuewheels.jpghttp://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/vueint.jpg

[MarvC]

I'll keep the 2007, that thing is Butt ugly! Copied the CRaVe UGH!
Looks like all the other bugs on the street!
It has no substance at all and seems greatly downsized!

[EnjoytheVue]

Well, as suspected, it looks much more tame (read boring) than the concept model. It looks a lot like the new Honda CRV. I don't mind the look but it doesn't make me sorry at all that I just got a polymer paneled 2007. Looks like you'll need to get the Redline to get the 250 horsies and if I read the article right it looks like you can't even get a V-6 with FWD.

[rossao1]

I have not been keeping up with the new Vue Pre-views. But, WTH is with that grill thingy on the fender by the front door? IT had better be VERY functional or else. Because it looks like a wart in the center of someone's nose.

For the record, I love the latest VUE and it plastic panels. I seriously looked at buying a used one last summer. And still may someday when my '06 ION is paid off.

[K-1]

The choices are FWD 4-cyl XE, AWD 6-cyl XE, FWD 6-cyl XR, and AWD 6-cyl XR. There just isn't an AWD 4-cyl.

[Gerry Proctor]

I can honestly say that I like it. Nice progression in the model line. It looks like a VUE should look like in its sixth year. I may trade.

[K-1]

I'll keep the 2007, that thing is Butt ugly! Copied the CRaVe UGH!
Looks like all the other bugs on the street!
It has no substance at all and seems greatly downsized!
Not likely. The VUE was on the auto show circuit before the CR-V came out. The first and second row greenhouse is very similar though.

The wheelbase is the same 106.6" it has always been and overall length is just down 1.2", so it hasn't been downsized much at all - as I've been saying all along.

[Dorian]

Good looking vehicle! It doesn't have the typical "assembly line stamped out vehicle" look for which GM has been noted. The foglight area looks a little blah but functional. I look forward to Saturns success with this new crossover.

[PontiacLvr]

I also noticed .....NAV !!!!!!!!!!!!

[robertburns3]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but this is the first application of a GM push-rod, low-priced V-6 with the 6 speed auto, instead of the 4 speed. I wonder if we will see this change to the Aura XE??? I like the price and low end torque of the GM push-rods. The 6 speed auto will make it really efficient.

I must say I like the production model more than I thought I would. I just hope Chevy doesn't get a version that's too similar.

Still bummed it will most-likely be built in Mexico, but overall seems like a nice product. These drivetrain choices will definately make it more reliable than the Vue's of old, especially those equipped with Aisin 5 speeds and the CVT. For those who like the Honda drivetrain, the new DOHC engine will be as reliable and will not require a timing belt replacement.

For those who don't like it, let it simmer for a while. I bet it grows on you.

[davidsky]

Looks pretty good to me, I think this type of vehicle will be my next one. I like the fact that there will still be a 4 cylinder available.

[VTHokie00SL2]

Looks okay, but more station-wagon like than the current VUE, which looks more like a "traditional" SUV. Sucks that they might build it in Mexico, though...maybe Saturn's next homecoming can be down in Juarez or wherever they plan to build the thing!

[20VUE06]

Not bad. Better than I expected.

1) Anyone have an answer as to what that slit is to the left of the steering wheel? Above what I am assuming is a change compartment?

2) What are the rail looking things on in the back? They run front to back on the inside of the wheel wells. It looks like there is another set on the inside of the interior walls ABOVE the wheel wells.

3) Love the dual outlet exhaust.

4) Can't wait to see the RL.

5) Love the completely flat rear seats when down.

Thats all for now.

[davidsky]

It's a lot better (or different depending on how you think) looking than the new Ford Escape.

[PontiacLvr]

Not bad. Better than I expected.

2) What are the rail looking things on in the back? They run front to back on the inside of the wheel wells. It looks like there is another set on the inside of the interior walls ABOVE the wheel wells.



Per the Press Release : A rear cargo management system that uses upper and lower rails and storage nets to accommodate storage nets for everything from beverage bottles to home-improvement accessories

I read elsewere that the slit is a ticket holder ???

[20VUE06]

Per the Press Release : A rear cargo management system that uses upper and lower rails and storage nets to accommodate storage nets for everything from beverage bottles to home-improvement accessories

I read elsewere that the slit is a ticket holder ???

Thanks, should have read BEFORE I posted...

Like there aren't enough places to stuff a ticket??? :dizzy:

[BobbyP]

I like it.

Since the instrument panel has been reduced, I suspect there's a data center display in the speedometer area giving us additional info.

Where did the tweeters go?

I know many people wanted a real AWD system, it seems to be the same as the current VUE.

[K-1]

Looks okay, but more station-wagon like than the current VUE, which looks more like a "traditional" SUV. Sucks that they might build it in Mexico, though...maybe Saturn's next homecoming can be down in Juarez or wherever they plan to build the thing!
Mexico ain't gonna happen. They'd need to do even more modifications to the Ramos plant (Delta and U-body) than Spring Hill to get the Theta IIs online. I think it's safe to say the VUE will stay in Spring Hill.

[robertburns3]

Mexico ain't gonna happen. They'd need to do even more modifications to the Ramos plant (Delta and U-body) than Spring Hill to get the Theta IIs online. I think it's safe to say the VUE will stay in Spring Hill.


I like your optimism. Maybe you have inside knowledge?

On another note...

I wish car-makers would stop telling us how much volume the cargo room takes. Instead, I want to see if the thing can handle a sheet of plywood, or a half sheet. It's the long and bulky thinkgs that are more often carried, like, lumber or bikes, not a truck full of bean-bags.

[20VUE06]

I know many people wanted a real AWD system, it seems to be the same as the current VUE.

Specs from Saturnfans state:

On-demand and electronically actuated - Power take-off unit attached to transaxle

Also, the Ops Manager from my dealership went to a meeting (I think back at the end of Oct???) and came back with a bunch of info on the Aura, Outlook, and Vue. He stated that he was told that the Vue would be made in USA. I have nothing to base this on, but that is what I was told... Take it for what it is worth.

[Nuke-Em]

It looks too tall, narrow and bubbly. Reminds me more of a Kia or Hyundai. The previous generation had bolder body lines and I'd have to say I liked it better. This new look is too cutesy and round looking. The interior isn't bad looking, but the center stack looks to have cheap-looking hard plastic.

Just my opinion.

Matt

P.S. I see a fuel gauge between the speedo and tach...but no engine temp. gauge?

[K-1]

I like your optimism. Maybe you have inside knowledge?

On another note...

I wish car-makers would stop telling us how much volume the cargo room takes. Instead, I want to see if the thing can handle a sheet of plywood, or a half sheet. It's the long and bulky thinkgs that are more often carried, like, lumber or bikes, not a truck full of bean-bags.
Not inside information, just logistics based on public knowledge. Spring Hill is already set up to build Thetas - Ramos Arizpe (HHR, Rendezvous) isn't. The only Theta plants are Spring Hill and CAMI. CAMI already has three vehicles coming down the line (Chevy Equinox, Pontiac Torrent, Suzuki XL-7). All Spring Hill really needs is an updated paint facility and some metal stamping. Unless GM plans on taking SH to a Delta Township level of flexibility - capable of Lambdas all the way down to Kappas - I don't seem them being shutdown that long to retool.

[20VUE06]

Do these look a lot alike or is it just me?

[djb383]

I wonder if that dual outlet muffler will fit the '06 V6? Looks good but plenty happy with our '06 with Kumho's in place of the Duelers.

[K-1]

Do these look a lot alike or is it just me?
Frankly, I think it's just you. The VUE has no real C-pillar to speak of which makes it look more cohesive.

[20VUE06]

Frankly, I think it's just you. The VUE has no real C-pillar to speak of which makes it look more cohesive.

...agreed about the C-pillar.

[Dorian]

Do these look a lot alike or is it just me?

Great post! Yeah, there are a lot of similarities. But I don't quite understand where body styling is such a big deal with SUV's. An SUV is an SUV. Its like making a sexy looking station wagon.... ain't no such thing. But I admit I'm in the minority with my way of thinking.

And I agree with what robertburns3 said, I couldn't care less about cubic feet of cargo space. Square feet of cargo space is the real factor unless you're delivering for a bottling company. There could be 1,000 cubic feet of cargo area behind the rear seat, but if the floor space is only 10 square feet then I will only be carrying 10 square feet of groceries or camping gear back there. I'm not a fan of flying packages if I have to slam on the brakes.

All that being said, I really like the look of the '08 Vue. It doesn't look any better or worse than the '07, just different. The '07 nor the '08 would alter my buying decision by their appearance.

[bc3tech]

looks too big to me. i liked the 06's and 07's the best. but i'll have to see it in person, else i'll be getting a used 07 or something when it's time for me to buy

[K-1]

looks too big to me. i liked the 06's and 07's the best. but i'll have to see it in person, else i'll be getting a used 07 or something when it's time for me to buy
It's the same size.

[davidsky]

I like it.

I know many people wanted a real AWD system, it seems to be the same as the current VUE.

Define real. we need more information.

[davidsky]

I like your optimism. Maybe you have inside knowledge?

On another note...

I wish car-makers would stop telling us how much volume the cargo room takes. Instead, I want to see if the thing can handle a sheet of plywood, or a half sheet. It's the long and bulky thinkgs that are more often carried, like, lumber or bikes, not a truck full of bean-bags.

they could give length and width and height numbers in the specs. It would be convenient.
Just bring a tape measure to the dealership.

[davidsky]

It looks too tall, narrow and bubbly. Reminds me more of a Kia or Hyundai. The previous generation had bolder body lines and I'd have to say I liked it better. This new look is too cutesy and round looking.


Cutesy and round seems to be the favored style right now.
What do you think of the new Escape?

[bc3tech]

It looks too tall, narrow and bubbly. Reminds me more of a Kia or Hyundai. The previous generation had bolder body lines and I'd have to say I liked it better. This new look is too cutesy and round looking. exactly my thoughts.


and i own a kia sorento ex :)

[saturrn]

Is this Saturns way of saying the current Vue is no good?:(

[Dorian]

Is this Saturns way of saying the current Vue is no good?:(

Nope. There was nothing wrong with the 63 Corvette, but change was inevitable.

[bkskatersd]

Not inside information, just logistics based on public knowledge. Spring Hill is already set up to build Thetas - Ramos Arizpe (HHR, Rendezvous) isn't. The only Theta plants are Spring Hill and CAMI. CAMI already has three vehicles coming down the line (Chevy Equinox, Pontiac Torrent, Suzuki XL-7). All Spring Hill really needs is an updated paint facility and some metal stamping. Unless GM plans on taking SH to a Delta Township level of flexibility - capable of Lambdas all the way down to Kappas - I don't seem them being shutdown that long to retool.

Word I've heard from a buddy at LA Auto Show is that Vue is to be built in the US, most likely at Spring Hill. However, until we see a press release from GM its not official.

[peccles]

According to Saturnthe '07 4-cyl automatic FWD Vue's curb weight is 3345lbs and the 6-cyl FWD is 3544lbs. According to this site's specs on the '08 Vue, the 4-cyl automatic is 3825lbs and the 6-cyl FWD 4076lbs. If these numbers are accurate, then the new Vue is too heavy. MPG ratings will fall. Could all this weight increase be due to using metal instead of plastic?

I have an '02 Vue with a 5 speed manual. I would have hoped for a 6 speed manual. Mine runs at 2900RPMs at 65mph.

[DesertPuma]

I also noticed .....NAV !!!!!!!!!!!!

Enlighten me, why is this such a coveted feature, I know my way around Arizona (like the back of my hand), so I would have no use for it. It's just another useless gadget (doo-dad), anyplace I am not familiar with I use a map.

(Side note: I always turn down NAV when I get rental cars on business trips, I always manage to find my way around without it.)

Other observations:


I do not like the front-end, this same front end is found on the Aura, and the Outlook (I know - duh!). It has the look of someone with a deviated septum, it looks ugly.
Lose the chrome. (Although there doesn't appear to be as much on the VUE as the Aura, on the Aura it's way too much overkill.)
At this point I really don't care if it's built in Mexico or the US, I am not interested.
Saturn has definitely lost this customer. (No news there.)

[Nuke-Em]

Cutesy and round seems to be the favored style right now.
What do you think of the new Escape?

I'd have to say I prefer the Escape's lines to the VUE's. On the flip side of that, I like the VUE's interior better. Overly round only works for me on the MINI Cooper S and even that's a bit of a stretch.

Could all this weight increase be due to using metal instead of plastic?

While the steel may cause a bit of an increase, the majority of the weight is going to come from things such as sound deadening, power accessories, structural reinforcements, etc.

Its like making a sexy looking station wagon.... ain't no such thing.

Bite your tongue! VW Passat Variant, Audi A4 & A6 Avant, Mazda6 Wagon, the list goes on. Those are some awesome looking wagons.

Matt

[Dorian]

Enlighten me, why is this such a coveted feature, I know my way around Arizona (like the back of my hand), so I would have no use for it. It's just another useless gadget (doo-dad), anyplace I am not familiar with I use a map.

Nav is one of those features that is addictive. If you never have to ask for directions to a new friends address, never explore areas you've never been to before, don't venture into cities you haven't grown up in, and never venture outside of Arizona then you will more than likely never appreciate Nav.

I used to say the same thing about it on my motorcycle. Heck, half the fun when riding a bike is getting out in the middle of nowhere and being lost. But then my wife bought a Nav for my bike as a gift. I don't know how I ever managed without it.

Simply use maps? Yeah, I don't need email either.... I have the postal system. Nav is appreciated by many.

(Pesonally, until they can price it as an option under $1,000 I'll stick with using Garmin units that can be moved from car to car and cost under $700.00. $2K for nav units is robbery.)



Bite your tongue! VW Passat Variant, Audi A4 & A6 Avant, Mazda6 Wagon, the list goes on. Those are some awesome looking wagons.

Sorry, your opinion lost credibility when you mentioned that you like the look of the pregnant rollerskate called the Mini ;)

[BobbyP]

According to Saturnthe '07 4-cyl automatic FWD Vue's curb weight is 3345lbs and the 6-cyl FWD is 3544lbs. According to this site's specs on the '08 Vue, the 4-cyl automatic is 3825lbs and the 6-cyl FWD 4076lbs. If these numbers are accurate, then the new Vue is too heavy. MPG ratings will fall. Could all this weight increase be due to using metal instead of plastic?

All of the new Saturns seem to be "overweight", SKY, Aura, and new VUE... Where is the weight going?

[pisulino]

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, Audio Systems,
Bluetooth, Cell Phones, 45 button consoles, DVD System,
And now, adding colour, NAV System.........

No wonder nobody mind their daily driving anymore.....

people switch lanes without signaling, slow down for unknown reasons, do not use mirrors, do not yield, don't know how to block/unblock traffic, etc.......

Hey, but ABS, air bags, ESP, and 4WD will correct all their screw ups... right?

God save us all......!:zzz:

[robertburns3]

All of the new Saturns seem to be "overweight", SKY, Aura, and new VUE... Where is the weight going?


In most new cars the weight seems to be going to safety, and probably to stiffening the structure to make it strong and squeek-free.

Despite all the weight-saving on new cars in smaller engines, unibody construction and more, cars are heavier.

A Honda Fit weighs more than my 1966 Ford Mustang with an Iron Block V-8 in it. That said, the Mustang is probably a death trap.

[BobbyP]

Specs from Saturnfans state:

On-demand and electronically actuated - Power take-off unit attached to transaxle

Also, the Ops Manager from my dealership went to a meeting (I think back at the end of Oct???) and came back with a bunch of info on the Aura, Outlook, and Vue. He stated that he was told that the Vue would be made in USA. I have nothing to base this on, but that is what I was told... Take it for what it is worth.

On-demand means the user can control it. They had to beefed up the drive train and rear end.

Made in the USA is good, GREAT if it's Spring Hill. I wonder if it's political posturing with the unions why Mexico was always being mentioned?

[mellissam]

It's identical to what we were jabbering about a few months ago....
I guess the extra weight speaks to the fact the current version isn't stiff enough, especially for the Honda beast.....maybe my little old 4 banger isn't too hard on the frame....I hate it when they don't make the super-structure strong and stiff. Without a good base to work from..you got &^%$.
Are those discs on the back? hmmmm. So, they plump it up with stuff we should have had in our current version, cargo cover, nav, and flat fold-down. I would like to see pictures under the rear floor hatch....whats under there? Not a fan of the retro dash....circles are passe. Neat emergency brake handle. Looking forward to seeing one in person, for curiosity sakes....without the poly it is just another cute-ute. Anyway, I am not in the market....overall, besides the poly removal, it is a decent job....

BTW- nobody has answered the million dollar question...what is that slot thingy to the left of the steering wheel?????

[davidsky]

Enlighten me, why is this such a coveted feature, I know my way around Arizona (like the back of my hand), so I would have no use for it. It's just another useless gadget (doo-dad), anyplace I am not familiar with I use a map.
Useless gadget or way cool tech, you've pretty much got the right idea.

Lose the chrome. (Although there doesn't appear to be as much on the VUE as the Aura, on the Aura it's way too much overkill.)
Saturn has definitely lost this customer. (No news there.)

More chrome! More Chrome!
For every one customer they lose, they'll gain 5.

[GR898SL2]

Not inside information, just logistics based on public knowledge. Spring Hill is already set up to build Thetas - Ramos Arizpe (HHR, Rendezvous) isn't. The only Theta plants are Spring Hill and CAMI. CAMI already has three vehicles coming down the line (Chevy Equinox, Pontiac Torrent, Suzuki XL-7). All Spring Hill really needs is an updated paint facility and some metal stamping. Unless GM plans on taking SH to a Delta Township level of flexibility - capable of Lambdas all the way down to Kappas - I don't seem them being shutdown that long to retool.

Wait! Rendezvous wasn't Theta? That's what I believe fuels the Mexico production rumors! Many spies/insiders thought the Rendezvous was Theta and that it would be a no-brainer to replace production of one Theta with another, especially with CAMI at capacity. If Rendezvous didn't ride on Theta, then what was its chassis, a reworked U-body platform, similar to what was done with the CSVs?

All hail K-1!:D

:flag:

[MJD1001]

This of course is no shock considering we were told it would be a near clone of the Opel Antara.

It looks good, but it needs a little more on the front end and bigger tires to make it look great. Hopefully that prescription will be filled by the Redline version. I just really want to see the Redline now.

I am a little dissapointed that they will only be offering 250hp with the 3.6. I was hopint it would be near the 270-275 the Outlook has....even if it was only in the Redline model. My fear is that even though this is almost exactly the same size as the current vue..the new features will make it heavier..and thus give it less performance than the current 3.5 vue.

[Saturnkid]

:drool: I WANT THAT CAR!!!!!!!!!!!

[YIN]

Bet it'd look good in black. Too bad I can't upgrade....

[crj19]

It's the same size.

The 2008 VUE is actually smaller and has almost 10 cubic feet less space behind the front seats according to the specs. listed.

Wheelbase (in. / mm) 106.6 / 2707
Overall Length (in. / mm) 180.1 / 4576
Overall Width (in. / mm) 72.8 / 1850
Height @ Curb (in. / mm) 67.0 / 1704

Rear Cargo Volume Behind Front Seat (cu. ft/L) 54.3 / 1540
Rear Cargo Volume Behind 2nd Seat at Normal Position (cu. ft/L) 26.5 / 752

[page2171]

Wait! Rendezvous wasn't Theta? That's what I believe fuels the Mexico production rumors! Many spies/insiders thought the Rendezvous was Theta and that it would be a no-brainer to replace production of one Theta with another, especially with CAMI at capacity. If Rendezvous didn't ride on Theta, then what was its chassis, a reworked U-body platform, similar to what was done with the CSVs?

All hail K-1!:D

:flag:

The Rendezvous and Aztek both rode on a variation of the U-body minivan platform.

[BobbyP]

The Rendezvous and Aztek both rode on a variation of the U-body minivan platform.

The Rendezvous had a nice IRS and unfortunately the Aztek had a beam axle.

[peccles]

The 2008 VUE is actually smaller and has almost 10 cubic feet less space behind the front seats according to the specs. listed.

Wheelbase (in. / mm) 106.6 / 2707
Overall Length (in. / mm) 180.1 / 4576
Overall Width (in. / mm) 72.8 / 1850
Height @ Curb (in. / mm) 67.0 / 1704

Rear Cargo Volume Behind Front Seat (cu. ft/L) 54.3 / 1540
Rear Cargo Volume Behind 2nd Seat at Normal Position (cu. ft/L) 26.5 / 752


Smaller and about 500lbs heavier. That's a winning combination.

[K-1]

The Rendezvous had a nice IRS and unfortunately the Aztek had a beam axle.
Actually, the Aztek Rally had an IRS.

[K-1]

The 2008 VUE is actually smaller and has almost 10 cubic feet less space behind the front seats according to the specs. listed.

Wheelbase (in. / mm) 106.6 / 2707
Overall Length (in. / mm) 180.1 / 4576
Overall Width (in. / mm) 72.8 / 1850
Height @ Curb (in. / mm) 67.0 / 1704

Rear Cargo Volume Behind Front Seat (cu. ft/L) 54.3 / 1540
Rear Cargo Volume Behind 2nd Seat at Normal Position (cu. ft/L) 26.5 / 752
The overall length is down about an inch - hardly newsworthy or noticeable. The cargo room can easily be attributed to the higher load-flat floor and the less squared off roof. I'd bet "usable" cargo room is actually the same.

[spencerb]

I wonder if it will still hold 8 foot long objects such as a ladder or lumber.

[sspeer]

No FWD 6? That's stupid. HELLO SATURN!!!! WAKE UP!!!! I want to buy a new VUE, but you seem convinced to deter me from doing so. I hope Saturn realizes its new buyer base, because I think they're going to lose their old one

I can't afford $30K just to get a modestly equipped V6, which looks to be necessary because the weight is up so much and fuel economy is going to suffer as well

And the styling, while not offensive..isn't nearly as cool as the concepts..I think it looks kind of rotund..and my first impression says Daewoo or Chevy (especially with the small grill space above the chrome bar). The rear end and interior look very nice though

Saturn's best hope for me would be a 5 door Astra RL

[K-1]

No FWD 6? That's stupid. HELLO SATURN!!!! WAKE UP!!!! I want to buy a new VUE, but you seem convinced to deter me from doing so. I hope Saturn realizes its new buyer base, because I think they're going to lose their old one

I can't afford $30K just to get a modestly equipped V6, which looks to be necessary because the weight is up so much and fuel economy is going to suffer as well

And the styling, while not offensive..isn't nearly as cool as the concepts..I think it looks kind of rotund..and my first impression says Daewoo or Chevy (especially with the small grill space above the chrome bar). The rear end and interior look very nice though

Saturn's best hope for me would be a 5 door Astra RL
Read the specs again. There's a 3.6L FWD XR.

[homerec130]

Another good thing - it looks like the rear seats fold flat or are at least a lot flatter than the current ones. When it comes to folding seats, that is one of my pet peeves.

Homer

[sspeer]

Read the specs again. There's a 3.6L FWD XR.


Oops..

but no 3.5 FWD option? and you have to get the XR and not the XE? This is just weird. Way too confusing...and it sounds like it will get moreso with the hybrid options.

I hate to say it, but I'm wondering if they're trying to please too many people with one vehicle. They're trying to appeal to Kia and Lexus buyers with this range.

This very well could be a situation where you're looking at sub $20K and low-mid $30K VUEs sitting next to each other..looks good when you're selling the 20K VUEs, but not too appealling when you're trying to woo that Lexus buyer

This was (one of) GM's problem with all the divisions going after the same piece of the pie...using a shotgun when you need a rifle

Maybe it's just a CUV/SUV thing..hopefully this works out for GM/Saturn.. I'll be curious to see pricing details

[K-1]

Oops..

but no 3.5 FWD option? and you have to get the XR and not the XE? This is just weird. Way too confusing...and it sounds like it will get moreso with the hybrid options.

I hate to say it, but I'm wondering if they're trying to please too many people with one vehicle. They're trying to appeal to Kia and Lexus buyers with this range.

This very well could be a situation where you're looking at sub $20K and low-mid $30K VUEs sitting next to each other..looks good when you're selling the 20K VUEs, but not too appealling when you're trying to woo that Lexus buyer

This was (one of) GM's problem with all the divisions going after the same piece of the pie...using a shotgun when you need a rifle

Maybe it's just a CUV/SUV thing..hopefully this works out for GM/Saturn.. I'll be curious to see pricing details
They probably will offer a FWD 3.5L; who knows what all is finalized so far. I would assume they just don't want a 4-cyl AWD and the 3.5L is comparable in cost.

[sspeer]

The more I think about it..maybe it's just that ugly blue color lol

OK Photoshop junkies! let's see it in black..and maybe a charcoal metallic

[cdp326]

According to Saturnthe '07 4-cyl automatic FWD Vue's curb weight is 3345lbs and the 6-cyl FWD is 3544lbs. According to this site's specs on the '08 Vue, the 4-cyl automatic is 3825lbs and the 6-cyl FWD 4076lbs. If these numbers are accurate, then the new Vue is too heavy. MPG ratings will fall. Could all this weight increase be due to using metal instead of plastic?
A bit general to say MPG ratings will fall. Who knows? Just because it's heavier doesn't mean they will. It's a lot heavier because of the added equipment--the old VUE didn't offer torso side airbags, nav, automatic A/C (if you look closely at the HVAC knobs there are "AUTO" settings), and so on. The weight numbers may not include curtain airbags either which are standard on the '08 VUE. It's barely smaller in length, and the rear seat folds actually flat now so it may be more usable space anyway.

I am a little dissapointed that they will only be offering 250hp with the 3.6. I was hopint it would be near the 270-275 the Outlook has....even if it was only in the Redline model. My fear is that even though this is almost exactly the same size as the current vue..the new features will make it heavier..and thus give it less performance than the current 3.5 vue.
The RL may offer more power, we haven't heard any info on that model yet.

I like it, though it's not perfect. I really don't like the blue color. I'm surprised at just how much they carried over from the Antara--the same steering wheel even? I hope it has a Driver Info Center--I see no buttons for it and no real screen for it. Gauges are a bit bland--an LED cluster like the Aura and Outlook would be much nicer IMO.
I would like to see a two-tone/lower cladding option though (a la 2002-05 VUE). Just a simple lower charcoal color would be fine, and make it an option to satisfy both sides of the paint scheme spectrum. It would help break up the visual height, IMO.
The main thing I hope for is that the rear seat cusion height is increased by a lot. The old VUE's back seat is very uncomfortable. Hopefully a center armrest as well.
I wish GM would take note on turning radii, for all their cars. 40' sucks--it should be much smaller (the old VUE isn't really any better in this regard, either).
Overall, I give it a B. :yes: :D

[PontiacLvr]

Here is the mini brochure they have on the saturn site if you wish to download

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/utilitynav/pdf/saturn_vue08.pdf

Here is is in silver while i like the blue the silver shows off its lines ...and I love the dash illuminated (nice to see they are carrying over the rain sensing wipers and heated washer fluid from the Antara as well ....

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/silvervue.JPG

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/silverback.JPG

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/interlit.JPG

[MarvC]

[QUOTE=PontiacLvr]Here is the mini brochure they have on the saturn site if you wish to download

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/utilitynav/pdf/saturn_vue08.pdf

Here is is in silver while i like the blue the silver shows off its lines ...and I love the dash illuminated (nice to see they are carrying over the rain sensing wipers and heated washer fluid from the Antara as well ....

I am sure the XR will be in the mid 30's, with the available features
Regardless of the color it looks like an oval bug!::eek:

[montrealvue]

The grillework is a bit dull but overall it looks really great in silver. I expect the grill to be different on the RL so there is hope ;) ......overall, I'd say I'm warming up to it. The blue did absolutely nothing for me, reminded me of the powder blue plush you used to find on the interior of Ford's fullsize cars in the 70's :no: Still, when I look at my 2006, I don't say to myself "I can't wait to trade what I have for that". I guess driving it will be the true test.

[MJD1001]

The RL may offer more power, we haven't heard any info on that model yet.


While that is possible that it will have more power, it isn't likely. The specs sheet GM released on the new Vue shows the 3.6 as rated at 250hp, and it is listed as being available in the Redline version. If the redline were rated higher, GM would usually have a note such as TBD under power for that version.

Either way, the press release and spec sheet to me looked pretty official in that the Redline will be getting the same power as the non redline with the 3.6.

Needless to say, I am VERY dissapointed with this. As I said earlier, I was hoping for a slight performance improvement with the new Redline over the current one. I'm not asking for 350hp+, just a little more. To see it is very likely going to take a big step back in performance.....It is dissapointing..it is sad. I really wanted the new Redline to be the first vehicle from GM/Saturn that I was going to buy at launch because it had everyting I wanted. Now it looks like we are definitly turning our attention to the upcoming Equinox SS or the Rav4 sport.

I think the new Vue looks good, especially in that silver color...just I am upset in that it is dissapointing me with the Redline versions power and weight.

[BobbyP]

I think the new Vue looks good, especially in that silver color...just I am upset in that it is dissapointing me with the Redline versions power and weight.

The Wikipedia chapter on the VUE mentioned a 450hp V8 in the VUE. Chevrolet has a 5.3L V8 in the Impala is 303hp. That would be an interesting upgrade for the VUE RL.

[MJD1001]

The Wikipedia chapter on the VUE mentioned a 450hp V8 in the VUE. Chevrolet has a 5.3L V8 in the Impala is 303hp. That would be an interesting upgrade for the VUE RL.

Thanks for the info, but obviously that is not a very reliable source.

The funny thing is, me and some others on this forum aren't looking for 450hp. I think many of us are just looking for 275 or so. Just enough to keep it competitive with the Rav4 and with the current redline vue that is going away.

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The Rendezvous had a nice IRS and unfortunately the Aztek had a beam axle.

If I remember correctly, I believe that for both the FWD versions got the beam axle and the AWD versions got the IRS. I could be wrong on the FWD Rendezvous, though.

[BobbyP]

If I remember correctly, I believe that for both the FWD versions got the beam axle and the AWD versions got the IRS. I could be wrong on the FWD Rendezvous, though.


I never seen a Rendezvous with a beam axle. All of them had that shiny aluminum IRS subframe ass'y.

[20VUE06]

One surprising specification for the new Vue:

Fuel Tank (gal)
FWD Models = 19.5 gallons
AWD Models = 16.9 gallons

Almost at 20 Gallon Tank! Let's say 19 Gal at 22 MPG (for safety's sake) gives you 418 miles. Don't have milage specs yet, but.... Would be nice to regularly get over 400 miles.

[BobbyP]

One surprising specification for the new Vue:

Fuel Tank (gal)
FWD Models = 19.5 gallons
AWD Models = 16.9 gallons

Almost at 20 Gallon Tank! Let's say 19 Gal at 22 MPG (for safety's sake) gives you 418 miles. Don't have milage specs yet, but.... Would be nice to regularly get over 400 miles.

They must have reshaped the tank on the FWD models that don't need the clearance for the drive shaft.

[snowdog]

no plastic..............only 215HP...................NO THANKS:zzz:

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no plastic..............only 215HP...................NO THANKS:zzz:

Did you miss the 250 hp V6 option? The 215 hp engine is the middle option.

[snowdog]

250HP for Red Line only

[Charlie]

250HP for Red Line only

It should be available in the XR also. :)

Charlie

[bue05]

I obviously haven't seen it in person. However IMHO! I am dissatisfied with the engine choices and overall styling interior and exterior. A:)I do not want an awd vue, Yes I know i can get the FWD Vue XR for a lot more $$$, It has to be a 6cyl for me to consider it, 4cyl in that thing yikes!!! B:)Much Heavier and metal body panels with the base v6 being a 215 max bhp, seems like a waste of the transmission and salvaging a good mpg rating. C:)Did i mention i was dissapointed about the engine!! come on 215 hp and 250 hp max in the upscale vue xr/redline models. The base chevy impala has a 3.5L 211 hp engine, the aura xe has a 224 and aura xr 252 hp. I think the outlook is headed in the right direction for 270/275 hp. I think this vue would have got my vote for say fwd vue xe no less than 250hp up to 275 hp, vue xr 275 to 295/300 hp, and redline 300 to 350. But i know im dreaming and im picky. I think there are good things and bad things with the new vue maybe it will grow on me. If i could just mate the 3.5l 250 HP 24v honda v6 with the gm 6 speed automatic transmission. that might be nice... thanks for the vent bue05

[K-1]

I obviously haven't seen it in person. However IMHO! I am dissatisfied with the engine choices and overall styling interior and exterior. A:)I do not want an awd vue, Yes I know i can get the FWD Vue XR for a lot more $$$, It has to be a 6cyl for me to consider it, 4cyl in that thing yikes!!! B:)Much Heavier and metal body panels with the base v6 being a 215 max bhp, seems like a waste of the transmission and salvaging a good mpg rating. C:)Did i mention i was dissapointed about the engine!! come on 215 hp and 250 hp max in the upscale vue xr/redline models. The base chevy impala has a 3.5L 211 hp engine, the aura xe has a 224 and aura xr 252 hp. I think the outlook is headed in the right direction for 270/275 hp. I think this vue would have got my vote for say fwd vue xe no less than 250hp up to 275 hp, vue xr 275 to 295/300 hp, and redline 300 to 350. But i know im dreaming and im picky. I think there are good things and bad things with the new vue maybe it will grow on me. If i could just mate the 3.5l 250 HP 24v honda v6 with the gm 6 speed automatic transmission. that might be nice... thanks for the vent bue05:ugh:
People complain that the AURA doesn't have a 4-cyl or a manual trans. The VUE gets both and people still complain. This engine combo is next to ideal; a cheap 4-cyl, a cheap V6, and an uplevel V6. Be thankful you aren't getting the Honda 3.5L, the LY7 3.6L is a superior engine and is likely underrated.

[spencerb]

But i know im dreaming and im picky.And I think you are a little caught up in the numbers.

Are you dissatisified with the economy and feel of driving the 2008 VUE? (trick question)

[MJD1001]

:ugh:
People complain that the AURA doesn't have a 4-cyl or a manual trans. The VUE gets both and people still complain. This engine combo is next to ideal; a cheap 4-cyl, a cheap V6, and an uplevel V6. Be thankful you aren't getting the Honda 3.5L, the LY7 3.6L is a superior engine and is likely underrated.

If the rating is going to be 250 hp, then it is what it is. The days of under-rating peak hp are pretty much over, starting last year all enging hp ratings must be certified.

Regardless, whether it is 250, or 252, or whatever, it is dissapointing to many of us that the Horsepower to weight ratio, which will affect performance, is going to be considerably worse with the 08's than the 07's.

Maybe it will feel pretty good with the 3.6, but for anyone looking for a redline, the extra weight with no extra HP is very dissapointing.

[K-1]

If the rating is going to be 250 hp, then it is what it is. The days of under-rating peak hp are pretty much over, starting last year all enging hp ratings must be certified.

Regardless, whether it is 250, or 252, or whatever, it is dissapointing to many of us that the Horsepower to weight ratio, which will affect performance, is going to be considerably worse with the 08's than the 07's.

Maybe it will feel pretty good with the 3.6, but for anyone looking for a redline, the extra weight with no extra HP is very dissapointing.SAE J1349 is a voluntary certification program. By no means does it prevent manufacturers from advertising alternate numbers.

Peak horsepower to weight doesn't really mean much. I mean, how often is the engine at peak horsepower; 2, 3 seconds? A nice flat torque curve (like the 3.6L yields) gives a world of difference from the VTEC system.