2008 VUE pictures!!!

[crj19]

http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/more-on-the-2007-opel-antara-specs-revealed-191821.php?pg_username=jalopnik&pg_setname=Opel+Antara+Reveal&pg_server=83&pg_id=205685122&pg_secret=ab8df3e162

[Uzzy]

Black plastic bumpers!?!? :upset:

[WLKVUE]

Looks Like A Grown Up Toyota Yaris Liftback With 4 Doors.

[twosaturns]

maybe I'm getting old, but all these new cars are looking the same...

[Ritz]

Developed by Daewoo, assembled in Mexico, polymer panels are gone, and "premium" engine output reduced by 23hp. Base price is 26,850 euros....or about US$34.4k.

Think I'll pass.....

[spencerb]

Developed by Daewoo, assembled in Mexico, polymer panels are gone, and "premium" engine output reduced by 23hp. Base price is 26,850 euros....or about US$34.4k.

Think I'll pass.....We still haven't heard anything official about where it's going to be produced. If it's engineered well, I don't have a problem with it being made in Mexico.

We will likely see different powertrain options. Obviously we won't get the diesel. We'll surely get the 2.4, but no final word yet on the V6 powerplant. Keep in mind that the next VUE is smaller than the current one, so a 23hp drop may not affect performance. Remember, it's not about specs, it's about the real-world results. Acceleration time, etc.

The US price will be much, much less than $34K.

[Ritz]

The US price will be much, much less than $34K.

And you know this how?

Cheers,

[Uzzy]

And you know this how?
If it's built in Mexico, shipping and tarriffs are less or non-existant. It has to be similarly priced with the current VUE.

[Ritz]

If it's built in Mexico, shipping and tarriffs are less or non-existant. It has to be similarly priced with the current VUE.

So you're guessing. I'm just going by what was printed in the link above. Perhaps the truth will be somewhere in between....

Cheers,

[1saxman]

I'd suggest getting a VUE now if you want the real thing. This Korean/Mexican thing is not a Saturn VUE.

[Uzzy]

So you're guessing. I'm just going by what was printed in the link above. Perhaps the truth will be somewhere in between....They can't raise the price $10,000 and expect it to sell. Vehicles are more expensive in Europe and Canada than in the US, that is a fact. And more expensive beyond the exchange rate.

[silvervoo]

We still haven't heard anything official about where it's going to be produced. If it's engineered well, I don't have a problem with it being made in Mexico.I think I might. Depending on the QC.

For instance; I trust German engineering, but a lot of VW's made in Mexico or South America were crap.

[Ritz]

I think I might. Depending on the QC.

For instance; I trust German engineering, but a lot of VW's made in Mexico or South America were crap.

Indeed. They're JUST getting the jetta sorted out recently....after many years of Mexican production. For VW/Audi folks, the consensus seems to be that if you want a VW/Audi, pick a model that's actually built in Germany. :-)

Cheers,

[DesertPuma]

When this happens, this will truly be the end of Saturn. :upset:

[Ritz]

When this happens, this will truly be the end of Saturn. :upset:

It has already happened. It's all over except the shouting. If you like the current iteration of the VUE, you'd better grab one while you still can.

Cheers,

[GearGuy]

Got mine!

I was going to look for another used vehicle but the Vue seemed to be the perfect compromise of everything I wanted.
Hearing that polymer was on its way out and I could swing some extra deals to drop the price on the '06 Vue, I bit the bullet.

No regrets.

(knock on wood...)

[DesertPuma]

It has already happened. It's all over except the shouting. If you like the current iteration of the VUE, you'd better grab one while you still can.

Cheers,

Already have one :D, (although it is 1st gen, an '03', and I am quite pleased with it) and plan on keeping it until it dies :yes:

[mellissam]

I think the new Opel Antara SUV looks decent, except for the plunging rear part of the roof, and funny hood "V'. No doubt they will put on a nicer badge... :D
The interior is nice, especially the door trim, GPS system and seats (i'm guessing this is the 'loaded' version), but I like my current 06 centre console..the Antara seems to have taken a step back (looks like an 05- centre console). I prefer the current 06 climate controls with the rubber round knobs, instead of the 'I' switches. The intrument cluster doesn't come close to the 06...IMHO

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/12514/thumbs/P6110007_Medium_.JPG (http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=30193)

Otherwise ok, as a poster said it looks like a grown up Yaris. Curious to know what the cargo volume will be.....

[mellissam]

And you know this how?

Cheers,

Well, currently, I was speaking to a German friend (love skype!!), who wanted to get a SAAB 9-3, it was about 10g more expensive there, than here...cannot ever be 100% sure, but I would bet the Saturn will be much less than the euro price....JM2C
:)

[GirlWithAVue]

Like the interior a lot, but I'm thinking the exterior looks a little Chrysler Pacifica-ish. Maybe the back rear window is making me think this? Still like the old style better, and the polymer panels. Glad I got mine when I did :) No regrets.

[AzBlondeRocket]

Still like the old style better, and the polymer panels. Glad I got mine when I did :) No regrets.

I totally agree - it kind of reminds me of the Hyundai Tuscon. Which is not a bad vehicle at all, but I *love* the current Vue. :D

[spencerb]

And you know this how?You REALLY think this VUE will be priced in Lexus territory? That price was for the BASE model, too (2wd, 4cyl, cloth, manual trans, etc.). You've got to be joking.

If you go to South Africa you'll spend about $25,000 on a Toyota Corolla just to get power steering. Load it up and it'll cost $30,000, and yes, it's basically the same Corolla that would cost $10,000 less here.

It has to do with the market, no so much as the costs to build the vehicle itself.

[Ritz]

You REALLY think this VUE will be priced in Lexus territory? That price was for the BASE model, too (2wd, 4cyl, cloth, manual trans, etc.). You've got to be joking.

If you go to South Africa you'll spend about $25,000 on a Toyota Corolla just to get power steering. Load it up and it'll cost $30,000, and yes, it's basically the same Corolla that would cost $10,000 less here.

It has to do with the market, no so much as the costs to build the vehicle itself.

I don't know how it will be priced. And neither do you. I just went by what was printed in the news blurb.

I do know, that regardless of price, it isn't of any interest to me as a future vehicle for the reasons I stated earlier.

Best regards,

[slv01sc2]

I doubt it's base price would be more than the Outlook!

[mikec]

Black plastic bumpers!?!? :upset:


They look alot better 5 years from the purchase date than monoclad bumpers.

[cdp326]

Developed by Daewoo, assembled in Mexico, polymer panels are gone, and "premium" engine output reduced by 23hp. Base price is 26,850 euros....or about US$34.4k.

Think I'll pass.....

It's still on the Theta architecture.
Again, we have no idea where it'll be built. You can't always believe these releases from GM with "future possibilities"...they're not always right (it's happened before). I think there's more factual info in the rumors that don't come directly from GM...that's the way it seems.
Yes, polymer is gone.
Since when has the US and Europe gotten the same engines? Honestly. Why would they put in a V6 with that much less power?

As for the price, don't those prices usually include taxes that don't apply here? If you convert prices of cars in Europe that are sold/may be sold here (Ford Focus, the Astra, etc.) the price in US dollars is well over $20k, and they wouldn't try and sell a Focus in the mid-$20ks that's similarly equipped to other $16-18k compact cars in the US.
If you honestly think this Antara is a "WYSIWYG+Saturn VUE badges," price and all, you're not thinking logically. :no: It would be IMPOSSIBLE for Saturn to sell a VUE starting at anything near $30k, let alone $34k. :no: Why the heck would they increase the price by $15k? :no:
We don't know what the price will start at, but saying that it is going to start pushing $30k defies logic. The next VUE is still going to compete with the CR-V, RAV4, Escape, etc. Even if Saturn had the ability to compete with a small SUV near that price point (which they don't), they wouldn't do it. (A BMW X3 starts at $36,800 without destination charge, for comparison.)

Indeed. They're JUST getting the jetta sorted out recently....after many years of Mexican production. For VW/Audi folks, the consensus seems to be that if you want a VW/Audi, pick a model that's actually built in Germany. :-)

Cheers,
It's my understanding that European built VW/Audis of the late 90s to early 00s weren't much better than the ones built in Mexico.

[ECF]

I think I might. Depending on the QC.

For instance; I trust German engineering, but a lot of VW's made in Mexico or South America were crap.
This is mainly due to quality control at the place of production, from what I've heard. The same happens with Mercedes-Benz. If you look at the reliability/customer satisfaction surveys, you often find that the German-built models do score better than the Mexican-/South African-built models.

[Big Nickel]

You REALLY think this VUE will be priced in Lexus territory? That price was for the BASE model, too (2wd, 4cyl, cloth, manual trans, etc.). You've got to be joking.

If you go to South Africa you'll spend about $25,000 on a Toyota Corolla just to get power steering. Load it up and it'll cost $30,000, and yes, it's basically the same Corolla that would cost $10,000 less here.

It has to do with the market, no so much as the costs to build the vehicle itself.


I completely agree... and you don't even have to go so far as South Africa.
Since the Canadian $$ has increased in value a lot this year against the US$, a lot of people have been looking at buying in NY State or Michigan etc. Recent article in the Toronto Star compared Canadian vehicle prices to US prices, taking into account the exchange rate etc... and found that there was quite a difference in prices.. ie. the Toyota Matrix was $3 000 cheaper in the US than in Ontario (where it's actually built along with the Corolla). Acuras and high end German cars were also considerably cheaper in the US (upwards of $5 000 to $10 000 difference after accounting for the exchange). Even taking into account slight packaging differences, I think we're kinda getting ripped off north of the border.

Cheers

[vue04]

I think a lot of the pricing has to do with the overall cost to sell cars in those countries. I mean the regulations and additional costs gets passed on to the consumer. In the US, having a car is a practical birth right and encouraged by the government for decades base on how our cities and suburbs are formed. Plus the manufacturers can sell in volume and pass on the savings to the consumers. So, no I don't think you can convert Euros into Dollars to get the US selling price. Auto only cost about $4,000 to $5,000 to actually produced, the rest of it is for marketing, management, distribution and research (auto insider told me once).

[mellissam]

I think a lot of the pricing has to do with the overall cost to sell cars in those countries. I mean the regulations and additional costs gets passed on to the consumer. In the US, having a car is a practical birth right and encouraged by the government for decades base on how our cities and suburbs are formed. Plus the manufacturers can sell in volume and pass on the savings to the consumers. So, no I don't think you can convert Euros into Dollars to get the US selling price. Auto only cost about $4,000 to $5,000 to actually produced, the rest of it is for marketing, management, distribution and research (auto insider told me once).

Thats depressing....
Here I thought I got a deal. :xeye:
However, if I ever tired to make my VUE - I couldn't, and it would be prohibitively expensive...

[Big Nickel]

Thats depressing....
Here I thought I got a deal. :xeye:
However, if I ever tired to make my VUE - I couldn't, and it would be prohibitively expensive...


haha... a few years ago Popular Mechanics magazine ( I think) priced out a new Ford Explorer, built entirely by OEM factory replacement parts. The total was about $80 000.:dizzy:

[spencerb]

The US has more vehicle regulations than probably any other country. The higher cost in other countries is mostly due to the local market. Retail goods are priced at what the consumers are willing to pay. The price is not a direct function of cost to produce.