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agoldslsaturn
07-18-2006, 08:49 PM
I have a few questions about the 2008 model.
~ Is it available Redline?
~ The v6, will that be the honda 3.5 or the Gm? I have been researching and apparently honda engines are notorious for losing timing and I would like to know what I am getting into.
compnurd
07-18-2006, 09:14 PM
I have a few questions about the 2008 model.
~ Is it available Redline?
~ The v6, will that be the honda 3.5 or the Gm? I have been researching and apparently honda engines are notorious for losing timing and I would like to know what I am getting into.
I have never heard that about Honda engines. Especially the ones in the VUE. Otherwise I heard 07 will be the last honda as the new honda owner wants to pull the engines out
agoldslsaturn
07-18-2006, 09:59 PM
Thanks. It was mainly the Civics and CRVs that I was reading about, so I dont think either of those use that engine (the 3.5) so it should be fine.
SylenThunder
07-18-2006, 10:19 PM
~ The v6, will that be the honda 3.5 or the Gm?
From what I understand they will be getting the new GM 3500 that is currently in development. And will likely have the 6-speed auto.
agoldslsaturn
07-18-2006, 10:24 PM
Auto is fine, I dont want a manual in it actually.
I really would like the laser blue color butI dont know how that will swing, if it will at all...
spencerb
07-19-2006, 09:08 AM
2007 will be the last year for the Honda powertrain in the VUE. It will have a GM V6 for 2008. I hear that there will be no reason to lament the loss of the Honda engine.
2007 will be the last year for the Honda powertrain in the VUE. It will have a GM V6 for 2008. I hear that there will be no reason to lament the loss of the Honda engine.
Unless you believe in the myth that Japanese automakers do everything better than American automakers. Unfortunately too many people do.
agoldslsaturn
07-19-2006, 11:46 AM
Thanks again.
I dont feel any reason to lament the loss, but dont know anything about the engines so just covering.
It is still a toss up between the pacifica and the vue. There are traits that I love and hate about both, so its hard for me, I still have a year to decide so plenty of time for both to prove themselves to me in a sense.
kfraney
07-19-2006, 01:25 PM
Unless you believe in the myth that Japanese automakers do everything better than American automakers. Unfortunately too many people do.
I don't think it's a myth that Honda makes a more powerful, refined, low emissions & fuel efficient engine then GM.
I don't think it's a myth that Honda makes a more powerful, refined, low emissions & fuel efficient engine then GM.
Well then, you're just wrong.
kfraney
07-19-2006, 03:28 PM
Besides the Northstar family of engines, what engine does GM make that holds a candle to Honda engines in the attribitutes I listed? I'm curious.
agoldslsaturn
07-19-2006, 03:31 PM
Can we not get started on why honda "is" better than GM or why Ford is better or any of that?
That was not a question I asked, I simply wanted to know WHICH engine would be in the VUE I would be purchasing. Next car will be a definite keeper and I would much rather be more informed than not.
Thanks
fatabbot
07-19-2006, 03:41 PM
Can we not get started on why honda "is" better than GM or why Ford is better or any of that?
It's not fun when it's your own thread, huh? ;)
It's not fun when it's your own thread, huh? ;)
Ooooh good one!, Burn :hothead:
p.s. Ford sux :yes:
:D
20VUE06
07-19-2006, 04:03 PM
For what it is worth... just to make a bit of a point...
The existing Honda 3.5 and tranny is a proven drivetrain. From what I hear, the new 3500 will be exactly that, new. Not that it will be defective, but (from what I hear) it will be new. Just something to consider.
agoldslsaturn
07-19-2006, 04:07 PM
I dont care if you threadjack my threads its been done, and where did that come from?
I asked to specifically not down grade another companies engines/transmissions/ or even headlights! because you prefer one company or have "heard" they are better. That is what I said. I am not bashing the engine choices, I am trying to be an informed buyer and know what mess I am getting into, this car wether the vue or pacifica will be paid at least 3/4 in cash and I dont want some piece of crap that will break all the time.
PS I think saturn sucks right now, well GM in its entirity
The Pacifica and VUE will both be getting all new V6 engines for 2008.
agoldslsaturn
07-19-2006, 04:10 PM
For what it is worth... just to make a bit of a point...
The existing Honda 3.5 and tranny is a proven drivetrain. From what I hear, the new 3500 will be exactly that, new. Not that it will be defective, but (from what I hear) it will be new. Just something to consider.
You are exactly right it will be new, butis it something to never be given a chance?
Tell me the odds of finding a brand new 2007 with under 50 miles on it in a 150 mile radius in august of 2008? In the color I want, the features I want, etc.
So sacrificing a prove drivetrain to possibly tackle something that is new and unproven is a choice I have to make.
If I could be guaranteed that i could have that 2007 model just how I like it, just how I want it, and the above stipulations then I would get it. I would actually prefer it with under 10 miles on it and with the paper stuff still attached ;) Either way come oct I have $8k of the money for the vehicle, feb I will have another 8k and july will have the other 8k, so it has to be august, I ont want many payments.
fatabbot
07-19-2006, 04:10 PM
I dont care if you threadjack my threads its been done, and where did that come from?
I asked to specifically not down grade another companies engines/transmissions/ or even headlights! because you prefer one company or have "heard" they are better. That is what I said. I am not bashing the engine choices, I am trying to be an informed buyer and know what mess I am getting into, this car wether the vue or pacifica will be paid at least 3/4 in cash and I dont want some piece of crap that will break all the time.
PS I think saturn sucks right now, well GM in its entirity
I was just giving you a hard time. ;)
There have been many a thread hijacked by you and others by saying "Toyota sucks", "Ford's are all POS's" etc.
What goes around comes around :)
There have been many a thread hijacked by you and others by saying "Ford's are all POS's" etc.Because they are.
fatabbot
07-19-2006, 04:13 PM
Because they are.
Regardless, no need to threadjack ;)
20VUE06
07-19-2006, 04:15 PM
You are exactly right it will be new, butis it something to never be given a chance?
No doubt, I was just making a point that hadn't been mentioned. Sure it should be given a chance, and more than likely, it will be okay, but "first year" products sometimes have bugs and that is something to be aware of. That's all from me... This thread, like too many others, is getting too steamy for me - AGAIN!
Good luck on whatever you decide, but do let us know.
agoldslsaturn
07-19-2006, 04:16 PM
LOL, Nah I am over the whole mentality of it sucks. I still wont give them a second glance but I am realizing thats what some people like.
I will always say that civics are overated rice burners and there are WAY too many of them produced.
Continue the threadjacking if you wish, I have my questions answered now.
20vue04- Thanks. I wasnt being smart, I was honestly asking if it was something that should not be given a chance. This engine will be in first production as the vue engine? Or will it be in another vehicle? 2008 is the deciding model, its last year of polymer and I want a brand new car so that will be the year out when buying, unless as I said the 2007 of my dreams comes along...
GearGuy
07-19-2006, 05:33 PM
2008 is the deciding model, its last year of polymer and I want a brand new car so that will be the year out when buying, unless as I said the 2007 of my dreams comes along...
The 2007 model Vues coming out right now will be the last Vues equipped with polymer panels.
The 2008 models that come out (I'm guessing) mid 2007 will be the new Opel based CUVs with steel body panels.
Unless Saturn hears our cries for polymer and changes their wayward ways just in time to save the day... :)
kfraney
07-19-2006, 05:49 PM
The 2007 model Vues coming out right now will be the last Vues equipped with polymer panels.
The 2008 models that come out (I'm guessing) mid 2007 will be the new Opel based CUVs with steel body panels.
Unless Saturn hears our cries for polymer and changes their wayward ways just in time to save the day... :)
Is reasoning behind the switch to steel body panels that they are cheaper?
Is reasoning behind the switch to steel body panels that they are cheaper?
Mostly. And the car doesn't have to have a model specific supersturcture to take up the support lost without steel panels. I just found out the other day at least some of the panels are made here in Windsor :cool:
SailFan
07-19-2006, 06:34 PM
Pardon the threadjacking...or not.
I have worked in engine and car plants all over the place. I bought my VUE *because* of the great Honda engine from leetle Anna, Ohio.
Dave44
07-19-2006, 11:50 PM
pacifica vs vue? I thought the pacifica was several thousand more? When I bought my 05 a year ago, considering the options that I have, I think the comparable pacifica was about 8K more
got mine with 1100 miles and most options with the incentives from last year it was $22,500 and I thought the pacifica was pushing 30,000.
I liked the pacifica a little better but for the $.........the vue is great
agoldslsaturn
07-19-2006, 11:56 PM
I know the pacifica is more money, but I have rented one countless time for extended periods and I love the ride, the stability, comfort and everything about it. It may be more so I would be getting a 2007 instead of 2008, butI would rather swap a year to have a vehicle that I would much rather enjoy.
If the vue doesnt work out.
mike54703
07-20-2006, 01:47 PM
A Pacifica verses VUE - that's definitely not an apple to apple comparison - more like an apple to a watermelon, mileage can't even be close... If you buy a VUE, but like the Pacifica will you ever be happy?
BobbyP
07-20-2006, 02:32 PM
The Pacifica has always been overpriced. They lowered the MSRP again for 2007. I believe they start at $24k. My major dislike is it looks too much like, and drives like a minivan.
agoldslsaturn
07-20-2006, 10:01 PM
I am well aware they are not comparable.
The vue is more suv type, why the pacifica is a crossover. I enjoy the cross overs more, and of course saturn has the outlookcoming out so that still might be a consideration.
I dont need a lot of room now which is why I lean towards vue, but I need to be able to pull a horse trailer and a few other things which I know the pacifica can do.
I actually like the ride of the pacifica, it doesnt remind me of the minivan, more of a bit bigger car. I think it handle way better than my car!
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